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Iron Spike

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So hey, here's a thing I don't think a lot of folks know: That whole "Patient Zero" thing? The French-Canadian airhost who supposedly spread HIV all over America? That's not real. That's not what happened or how it happened.

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Busto Mundo's avatar Busto Mundo @bustomundo.bsky.social
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Because of the movie "And the Band Played On", Patient Zero will forever be Phil Collins... Imagine the cojones it took to accept that role.

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Daniel Reeders's avatar Daniel Reeders @engagedpractx.bsky.social
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You are doing a v good thing raising this and I thank you.

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N8ey's avatar N8ey @n8ey.bsky.social
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📌

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Kimicali's avatar Kimicali @ksgpd.bsky.social
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Thanks for posting this. I had no idea.

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🏳️‍⚧️☠️Brian Lee☠️🏳️‍🌈 's avatar 🏳️‍⚧️☠️Brian Lee☠️🏳️‍🌈 @brianlee.bsky.social
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Wow! I was a queer teenager/young adult in the mid 80s and never heard the real story here until now! Thank you for posting this

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Lauren McKenzie [free 🇵🇸]'s avatar Lauren McKenzie [free 🇵🇸] @themckenziest.gay
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Thank you so so so much for this thread. I had no idea about any of this 💜 appreciate you

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81's avatar 81 @81horses.bsky.social
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We recently lost a dear family member to suicide. He was of that elder generation and had “survived” with HIV/AIDS all these years. It was a life of sadness and sickness and pain. Rest in peace to him and to Gaetan and to all of them.

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Iron Spike's avatar Iron Spike @ironspike.bsky.social
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Gaëtan Dugas was a sexually active, gay, French-Canadian airhost. He was diagnosed so early, he participated in a study to prove HIV was sexually transmitted. (Yes, this was WAY back.) Gaëtan kept an address book (people used to do that), and the researchers used it for contact tracing.

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Amy Mebberson 's avatar Amy Mebberson @amymebberson.bsky.social
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Yeah, I saw a documentary, fascinating stuff. Him being tagged Patient Zero basically boiled down to a typo! Poor man.

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Adam's avatar Adam @papazit.bsky.social
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never heard that before

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Bob Morrell's avatar Bob Morrell @wallet55.bsky.social
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I worked in microbiology at the time and we knew he was not the first patient, and knew he kept logs that convinced researchers it was contagious. Very early I learned that what professionals thought and what politicians said and the public believed were three very different things. Same in 2020.

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Michael Engard's avatar Michael Engard @engard.me
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Thanks for the reminder to go reread And The Band Played On. That and a pair of AIDS documentaries (We Were Here and How To Survive a Plague) became bedrock foundations of my worldview.

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Erin Anderson's avatar Erin Anderson @cgsakurapink.bsky.social
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Here's a clip featuring Gaetan Dugas himself at a forum on AIDS in Vancouver in 1983. (Keep in mind this was literally days before researchers in France announced that they'd identified the HIV virus.) Even the Director of the CDC was apparently identifying Dugas as "Patient Zero."

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Steve Quick's avatar Steve Quick @stevequick.bsky.social
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I recall testing of ancient lab samples of unusual cases, they found HIV in a (British?) sailor from 1956. There of course was no "patient zero."

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The Spike Syndrome's avatar The Spike Syndrome @spikesyndrome.bsky.social
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Canadian filmmaker John Greyson made a movie musical about this topic and he did it on a tiny budget. It’s really something. www.justwatch.com/us/movie/zer...

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Slip Slidin' Away's avatar Slip Slidin' Away @liberallibra.bsky.social
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Face it, NOBODY knows how ANYTHING happens or who is RESPONSIBLE or WHERE it comes from because every five years or so somebody comes up with the "definitive" answer and the "indisputable" evidence. We are caught in a web of bullshit that just goes on and on and on.....

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🌙 Lunar Knight Danielle 🍉's avatar 🌙 Lunar Knight Danielle 🍉 @indanimate.bsky.social
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Bea's avatar Bea @bb54.bsky.social
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I had never heard about "patient zero" and i thought i was pretty well educated on this subject!

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ASMEH's avatar ASMEH @asmeh.bsky.social
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The fact that anyone (not just tracking for the sake of finding infected people) cares who "infected" who is just fucked up.

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