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Alexander Hoyle

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PhD student in Natural Language Processing at UMD, advised by Philip Resnik. Previously summer intern at MSR, AI2. he/him


Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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don’t forget: -right to abortion enshrined in the constitution -per capita carbon emissions less than 1/3rd of the US -98% of employees covered by collective bargaining -mandatory maternity leave -a rail system that covers the distance from DC-Boston in half the time as Amtrak

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Ooh, I've never seen this before. It hits

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bertopic? et tu, david?

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yes! I think they're more amenable to being embedded as well (appealing to the Ray Mooney quote cs.utexas.edu/~mooney/cramming.html)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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been thinking about this problem recently! The abstractions he mentions relate a little to the decompositions we used in some recent work

aclanthology.org/2023.emnlp-m...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I don’t think you get it. You cannot “abstain.” That is not an option. Not voting is just as active a choice as voting

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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first, this statement is just wildly, embarrassingly uninformed. Second, as an adult US citizen, you are part of the machine by dint of birth. There is no opting out of that responsibility. Not pulling the trolley lever is *still a choice*

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I can perhaps understand a protest vote in a D/R lockhold state. Anywhere with a slim chance of influencing the outcome and you’re complicit in the result regardless of what you do. It’s zero sum

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I hear you man. Like, yesterday my toilet starting backing up—I called the plumber and he told me I could either pay him $400 to fix it or I could do nothing and let it spew shit everywhere. But $400 is a lot of money, and he was kinda unfriendly. Didn’t exactly earn my business you know?

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Yes! I also made a Sims comparison in reference to a related LLM-simulation paper

x.com/miserlis_/st...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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so cute! are you planning to sell as a print/sticker sheet? Didn’t see them on your site

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I meant as a kind of cultural hangover, maybe? When I lived in the UK, I was surprised how many people drank "squash" (juice concentrate) even though fresh juice was readily available (also probably a function of the small fridges)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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perhaps related to the fact that it wasn't until 1970 (!!) that a majority of British households had refrigerators?

www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Oh, a friend's show also just had an ep about it---he said the director's recent high-contrast black and white cut worked better than the original (sorry if you mention this in the ep! haven't listened yet)

wondery.com/shows/eye-of...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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As someone working in NLP and social science, my skin crawls at the idea of “in silico” subjects from LLMs. People aren’t truss bridges you can stress test in SolidWorks! There is no link between model and real-world subject

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Apple Silicon already has dedicated “neural engines” for ML. Going forward, I assume the main consumer uses would be, eg, a local chatbot using your own data

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I’m an AI researcher and I regularly use my Mac to run models locally—albeit not training unless it’s small prototypes. It’s possible to compress the big models (in fact a pioneer of the technique gave his job talk today!) the one nice outcome of AI hype is that the hobbyist tooling is quite good

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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was about to say “mine too”, then realized where Adam would have picked up this principle

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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the last time i had fried chicken in a bucket it was actually ice cream coated in corn flakes. fakery!!!

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Also, for research assistants, if a codebook is unclear you just can just refine it by taking to them. But yes, if your estimator is unbiased, then I don't have a problem in principle with a black box model

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Yeah, I don't know that I really agree with Emily here For me, it's that I suspect the sources of bias and variation for people are likely to be categorically different than that of LLMs, in ways that aren't necessarily captured by high-level scoring metrics. (I could be wrong)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I agree that humans also rely on heuristics, and results from lazy annotator(s) may also be incorrect. I guess the question is how we regard the errors: is one preferable in some way? (eg, if I'm annotating sentiment, are my systematic errors more reflective of the construct than those of an LLM)?

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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To your second point, my assumption is that LLMs are more likely to be biased by spurious heuristics that systematically affect downstream conclusions. In the ideal case, I think humans disagreements stem from genuine ambiguity. Wondering if it's sort of a bias-variance tradeoff (...cont.)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Variable-specific test sets make sense. That said, if using summary metrics alone (eg, F1), then I don't think test set size should have any bearing on ease of bias detection (...cont.)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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My main concern is that the nature of disagreements between the LLM and human may be very different than those between two humans Comparing agreement metrics between human-human and human-LLM is a good start, but they could hide fine-grained systematic LLM biases (e.g., spurious lexical influences)

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I also appreciated that it was not relentlessly bleak? There are moments of hopefulness in The Last of Us, but the overall perspective is pretty grim Also I'm now grateful to be a Himesh Patel stan

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Yes, I've thought the same thing! I don't know why it didn't get more attention/acclaim. (And in this era of abundance, a one-season miniseries is very welcome)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Right, and in most cases, I don't think it should? $35k is, incidentally, the median individual income in NYC, not exactly a low CoL area. I mean, yeah, there's some truth in saying that most New Yorkers are struggling---but half the people can evidently afford to live there on less than $35k

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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...but I think the important point is that the terms of the debate have changed. The policy shifts student debt from actual "peonage" to being a progressive tax You've made the case the $35k threshold should be higher. That's a different kind of argument than the one happening before the policy

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Look, I think we all agree that there is inherent value in education and that it ought to be low-cost. The question is the proportion of the tax paid by society vs. the individual. You want more paid by society and, tbh, I'm with you. We need more state support... (cont.)

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I mean, I live in DC, have loans, and that's my exact salary. I guess I think of it like a payment plan for something I purchased, like a car? To be clear, yes, I'm in a very privileged position (field with job prospects, access to internships,...) But to my mind, housing costs are the Big Problem

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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It's 5% of income less $35k and is adjusted for dependents. To me the need for a roommate in a high-CoL area is not the fault of these loan payments. In the setup I described the loan is less than 6% of rent

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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I don't really see what the problem is with what amounts to an income sharing agreement. You earn more, so you pay more. It's a progressive tax! That's good policy!

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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My dude. You're about this close to sounding like a libertarian braying "taxation is theft!" Different scenario: you graduated with a $100k loan, start off at $40k/year, 4% wage growth You paid $36k over 20 years and the gov cut you a check for the other $64k. Sure sounds like a bargain to me

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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It depends, but if you borrow <$12k it's forgiven after ten years (every additional $1k borrowed adds a year, capped at 20 years total). In this scenario, if their annual salary increases by 1%/year, and assuming 5.5% interest, after 10 years they'd have paid $6k total and be forgiven ~$10k

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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It doesn't matter for my argument. The principal doesn't influence the monthly payment Second, most debt balances are <$10k. I was imagining someone who dropped out but still owed. Typically, they are most affected by student debt because they don't get the increased earning potential of a degree

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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You're $10k in debt and make $20/hour in Atlanta That's ~$40k/year or $720 over the typical expenses from the MIT living wage estimate, which puts rent at $1100/mo (promise I didn't cherry-pick!) SAVE repayments are $60/month. So you need to lower your monthly expenses by $8. Seems doable?

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The #DataSittersClub is back with an all-new book on topic modeling! If the LDA buffet explainer didn't do it for you, give this one a try: thanks to Xanda Schofield and her student Sathvika Anand, I now feel like I actually understand how it works. datasittersclub.github.io/site/dsc20.h...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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will my incessant lurking in your mentions finally pay off?

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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My bluesky feed is effectively an all-day call-in show hosted by Jamelle Bouie with a very antagonistic audience

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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When I say it's a useful framing, it's because I think it encourages the appropriate stance when reasoning about what language models are doing---as an example, see this recent discussion on Twitter (the "Octopus paper" she's referencing is the first thing I linked)

x.com/shaily99/sta...

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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You're welcome! It generated a lot of discussion among academic NLP people (and still does). While many disagree with their characterization of "understanding," it's still a useful framing (see this recent paper for a different perspective arxiv.org/pdf/2308.055... )

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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Like, I can see how someone saying "I worship at the church of a harry potter fanfic author" encourages a search for ulterior beliefs. in deciphering American politics, you become accustomed to decoding obscured intents. but sometimes ya gotta just take people at their word

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Alexander Hoyle's avatar Alexander Hoyle @alexanderhoyle.bsky.social
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not an original thought, but that there are instrumental or materialist explanations for an ideology (early Christian missionaries helped facilitate global trade; AI doomerism promotes regulatory capture) does not preclude an earnest and militant adoption of that ideology

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