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Barry Caplan@barrycaplan.bsky.social |
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We live in a Pareto Economy. But should we? Interested in the intersection of law, tech, psychology, economy, media, broadly speaking
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Barry Caplan
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A better take away is that people who express antisemitic opinions opinions can be city Jews and non Jews. But not all Jews who disagree are antisemitic. 2 Jews, 3 opinions as we say.
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Not every Jew that disagrees with me is antisemitic. That's just your fantasy about me.
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Your friends came back to talk. It was quiet for a while.
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Plenty of Jews disagree with me without being antisemitic. Are to a Jew?
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Fine. Go persuade Palestinians to start building the trust and welcome in the world community to make that make. But they've been in a stalemated civil war since 2007. Meantime, other Arab ethnostates are making peace with Israel. Maybe Palestinians can learn from that.
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You should learn from him too. Just not *only* antisemitic Jews.
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Generally speaking, left wing people are in favor of exactly that sort of decolonization. Why not own your antisemitism and be proud of it? Everyone can see it, so wear it proudly!
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Ok, this tells me you really aren't self aware.. bye.
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Ok, let's test that with a sample of your writing: what fallacies or cognitive biases did to consider and rule out before posting this?
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No you don't. Or maybe you do but you aren't good at it.
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Can you examine your question for fallacies and cognitive biases, eliminate them, and ask again please? Thanks!
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Will to reevaluate your own personal level of focus and intensity on this particular conflict? Or will to argue with me as too why you are going to maintain your focus on this one?
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And if I do, then what?
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That's my point. You don't know and don't care about them. Of all the war zones in the world, why are you focused exhaustively on this one, not only in general, but also particularly regarding the number of civilian deaths?
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These are more fallacies you'll learn about if you follow my path. Next fallacy wants you a block, ain't got time for this. Do better or be gone. Your choice.
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I think the answer you want will be found in a careful and extended study of all the fallacies. Then you'll see where your reasoning has come sideways. Good luck!
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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I notice you still haven't mentioned why this is more important to you than the other war zones where civilians are worse off? Can you elaborate?
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Besides made up statistics, do you have any feelings about other war zones ? Or why those can be ignored but this one is so important to you?
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Calling for hostages to be released, including 8 Americans, is problematic to you? Be honest, you only care about Gaza because Jews, right? You don't care about other was zones where civilians are even worse off at all, do you? Because no Jews there, right?
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Just curious. In your perfect world, what does Palestiniansociety look like? Form of government, citizenship, type of economy, rights, justice, education, etc.?
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Lol Scott Ritter
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Didn't see that antisemitism coming. Well played!
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My biases are that we should all work forward specific measurable goals so that everyone can thrive in the way that is important to them. What about you?
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I'm blocked by people who pose as pro Palestinian but only say antisemitic things? Be still my heart!
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I'm curious: what does it feel like to repeat antisemitic hate that you know is antisemitic. Is there a kind of a thrill? A melancholy? Is it a primal feeling? Sexual perhaps?
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Thanks for the warning!
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You said something earlier wasn't your argument. Now you accuse those who want to know your argument of bad faith. Maybe there's no argument at all you are willing to share. Where can we look up *your* argument? I'll read it and being it back for discussion.
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I'm interested in what the answer will be.
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That's your claim. What's your argument to make 2000 or more years of Zionism disappear? You know better had been known as Zion for millennia, right? And Jewish attachment to the land, now than one exile demonstrating the desire to return to the land always, right?
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What is your argument?
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Oh look another Jew hate spewing Jew hate instead of building up Palestinians.
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I want the hostages to be released and for actual Palestinians and all their new and old allies to practice statecraft that will lead eventually to a thriving free Palestine next to a thriving Israel. Don't you?
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Are you suggesting there was an expiration date?
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Why we Romans conquered Judea and colonized the land, causing the Jewish diaspora to begin. What's the 2000 years you mentioned? Same, right?
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A lot of people say and do a lot of antisemitic things these days. They rarely accept having it called out though. They rarely describe a positions future or vision for Palestinians though. Which is weird if you think about it. What's an ideal Palestinian future to you?
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You might be closer to the core idea here. What's this 2000 year idea you mentioned?
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But tell us what this idea is you are referring to. You might be getting closer to the point!
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I'm not the one mixed up here.
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Of course it's true lol. You've been lied too, but you don't have to accept it. Go ask a Rabbi at any synagogue about this. Do it in private if you don't want anyone to know. He or she will help you understand, they are teachers. Once you learn the truth about this, you can wrestle with the lies.
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Everybody's talking points should be in everyone's repertoire for consideration. I'm talking with everyone here, asking for their best cases. I follow and read pal pal-allied authors. Is it really too much to ask people to recognize that Zionism is demonstrably at least 2000 years old?
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Au contraire. I want Palestinians people to all throw and be wicking and trusted in the world community. Don't you agree?
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So sad a story, so American a story
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She ultimately said that if I'm not an in on antisemitic genocide friending, she doesn't want to talk. That's her right. But in the end I was right, neither she but anyone else wants to learn about Jews from Jews.
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I've had some of that stuff. It's not something to take seriously. I'm sure you can find many detailed thought out critiques if you wanted to. That someone is Jewish doesn't mean they can't be all in on antisemitic ideas. That there are Jews in your group is no shield against antisemitism.
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Ikr! Thats about the way people turned out to be. Varyng degrees of unrepentant antisemitic drivel. You don't need to see that, but if you want to, I'm sure you can find it plenty of other places.
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Ok, adios, enjoy your antisemitic friends, including the Jewish ones. Remember how closed minded you were to learning about Jewish ethnicity and the ways you've been led astray. That's who you are.
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There was no debate. You want me to share your framing, not going to happen, any more than you are going to come off your antisemitic framing. Good luck with that!
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Eg. You keep insisting that Zionism started in 1897, but that's easily demonstrated to be off by almost 2000 years. If you were learning from Jews, maybe you would get invited to a Seder one Passover and learn about this from Jews. Then you could decide between the 2 things you learned.
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The topic is that people should learn about Jews from Jews. Maybe their people have pulled in to tell me all their reasons why that's wrong. I address each point as it comes. But the topic is still the same as far as I'm concerned. 1/2
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