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i just had a kind of thought that when you think about it, one random subject kind of underexplored in fantasy is nationalism. the elder scrolls is the only series i know where /nationalist/ sentiment, as distinct from, eg. just fantasy racism, specifically plays a significant plot role

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Bohnenkartoffel's avatar Bohnenkartoffel @bohnenkartoffel.bsky.social
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Kind of makes sense given that most fantasy is set in pseudo-medieval settings, a time period prior to the development of nationalism in our world

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It is a major theme in my D&D group, for what it’s worth! Far more so than fantasy speciesism.

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DDOwen 's avatar DDOwen @llyfrgellbabel.bsky.social
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Was going to say that that's because it's anachronistic for most medieval fantasy, but then I realised that most medieval fantasy doesn't really deal with how bizarrely complicated the networks of fealty in medieval politics get and gives most characters a very modern mindset, so it's a fair point.

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Stephen Judkins's avatar Stephen Judkins @stephenjudkins.bsky.social
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Pretty big in The Witcher 3, if I remember correctly

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Joseph 's avatar Joseph @chaosos.bsky.social
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Technically has a novel series, but the Eberron campaign setting by Wizards of the Coast has nationalism at the forefront

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Prestidigitator John πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ 's avatar Prestidigitator John πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ @tomscud.bsky.social
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Tigana.

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Arturo Serrano πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄πŸ€–πŸ‘½πŸ§™πŸ¦„'s avatar Arturo Serrano πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄πŸ€–πŸ‘½πŸ§™πŸ¦„ @carturo222.bsky.social
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The Last Airbender comic books explore the aftermath of Fire Nation expansionism with surprising nuance.

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Gabe's avatar Gabe @bmoregabe.bsky.social
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Bajorans in DS9!

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James Felix Black's avatar James Felix Black @tft.io
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LYONESSE

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Colm's avatar Colm @colmquinn.bsky.social
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Game of Thrones does I would say. You’ve got the overarching imperialism with suppressed national identities of the kingdoms underneath that seem to be based as much on areas as dynasties. Then you’ve got the free folk beyond the wall, the city states, and the Dothraki steppe warrior tribes etc

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Juda's avatar Juda @gypaetus.bsky.social
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The Pillars of Eternity games, especially Deadfire, actually handle the topic suprisingly well

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Dr. Wombat 's avatar Dr. Wombat @aspyre.bsky.social
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Poppy War.

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Matti's avatar Matti @mrbtx.bsky.social
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Oh...yeah...true

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lorem ipsum's avatar lorem ipsum @whiskeynachos.bsky.social
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Dragon Age. The whole plot of origins is Loghain being afraid to call in the Orlesian Wardens because they might open the way to a reoccupation.

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drow zelensky's avatar drow zelensky @dov.bsky.social
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even the witcher is ironically never particularly interested in nationalism - there are hardly any characters that feel a distinct loyalty specifically to their country as a key motivation of their actions

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Materialist Gnostic's avatar Materialist Gnostic @walmsley.bsky.social
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In general I think the early modern period has a bunch of under-explored fantasy dynamics. The Reformation or the transition to absolute monarchies are interesting dynamics to use in a fantasy setting. Or the emergence of large armies.

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