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Jacob T. Levy

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Jewish students are subjected to speech including violence-sympathetic speech and accusations of collective guilt that, in the case of other minorities, would be deemed hateful and would be met with the full weight of institutional disapproval without so much fine parsing and distinction-drawing. 2

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Peter Jeffe's avatar Peter Jeffe @pjeffe.bsky.social
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But aren't you conflating anti-Zionist statements with antisemitic ones? As a Jew I've never felt targeted at pro-Palestinian protests, which have only expressed opposition to Israel and its policies, not Jews. In fact it's the Zionist rhetoric that tends to lump us together far more commonly.

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Chris Bertram's avatar Chris Bertram @crookedfootball.bsky.social
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Well, it seems clear that Palestinian students (and, relatedly, Arab and Muslim students) have had to listen to a great deal of “violence-sympathetic” speech etc. Since they are “other minorities” perhaps you need a third thought.

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Fergus's avatar Fergus @ferrousmu.bsky.social
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Other minorities including Palestinians, or...?

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Simon Pratt's avatar Simon Pratt @simonpratt.bsky.social
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Given the scale of hateful and violent language directed at LGBT (emphasis on T) people across the US and the UK especially, along with the over-reactive suppression of speech sympathetic to Palestinians, I am not sure this is true in ways that usefully allow us to make sense of the current problem.

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Jim Thompson's avatar Jim Thompson @jimthommo.bsky.social
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Imagine, if you may, that both of these were occurring in a location dedicated to solving problems just like this. Wouldn't that be crazy? You might not solve the ME, but you might do something productive. Nah, just send in the cops that's the solution

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Rick does Math and Stuff's avatar Rick does Math and Stuff @mathandstuff.bsky.social
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There are other people who know a lot about accusations of collective guilt and violence-sympathetic speech.

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Scott Lange's avatar Scott Lange @scottlange.bsky.social
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You are seriously arguing that "violence-sympathetic speech and accusations of collective guilt" toward Jewish students are more common and less repudiated than the said speech and accusations - not to mention actual violence - directed at Muslims in this country? Give me a break.

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Jacob T. Levy's avatar Jacob T. Levy @jacobtlevy.bsky.social
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These facts create *justified* distrust not only between those two communities but from each of them to the broader institution, and lead both to look for support from off-campus actors whose interests and incentives point toward making things worse. Knowing all this doesn't solve the problems. 3

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