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b-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie.bsky.social |
like, the whole thing seems very simple? bragg charged that trump committed a felony when he falsified business records to commit the campaign finance violation that michael cohen was already tried and convicted for. bragg also charged that this was done in violation of a new york state election law
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Jim Lippard
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The "commit" is not required for the object offenses, only intent to commit, which is why the object offenses weren't charged. It was unnecessary. That there were three object offenses to choose from confused some people.
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Graeme Edgeler
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Michael Cohen was not tried. He was convicted after pleading guilty. The sensible people who are raising concerns (say, Sarah Isgur) raised similar concerns around Cohen (and acknowledge his conviction now) but note the lack of precedential value because of the guilty plea.
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Stef @wikisteff@mastodon.social Christensen
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I loved it in the close when the Prosecution said, "in what world do you think Donald Trump would pay a contractor double for work done once?"
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Andrew S.
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AIUI, because Michael Cohen plead guilty, his conviction doesn’t set a precedent. So that’s likely the most vulnerable point on appeal. (Doesn’t mean the appeal will work, of course!)
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Dancing Paladin
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Here's my TLDR understanding if you're really asking. (IANAL, nor arguing the point) That's a misdemeanor crime that was past the statute of limitations, to make it a felony it had to be tied to federal election law, which isnt a state case, and the hush money must solely for electoral advantage.
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b-boy bouiebaisse
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what, specifically, is novel about this other than the fact that trump is the first person to do it so he necessarily is the first person to be prosecuted for it?
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Dr. Benway
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It’s pretty telling that pretty much every talking head criticizing the case needs to misrepresent something about it.
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Rev. Jesus “H" Christ, KSC
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I haven't seen the "novel legal theory" argument yet, but it totally tracks with the overall mindset
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K. P. Bara
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It seems like a lot of people simply do not think white collar crime is real crime
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Bill Stewart
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Wait, using the Federal crime (which Bragg obviously couldn't charge) to power the enhancement to a felony WASN'T novel? The news spent months telling us it was. (Oops!) How does Bragg get to use NY election law violations if he hadn't charged Trump with them (it wasn't one of the 34 counts)?
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Ostrich, Booster Pack Blueskyer
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So simple in fact that the juror who got all his news from truth social and newsmax or whatever slept on it for 24 hours and then came out and was like "yeah fair cop" with every other juror
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I actually think it’s a bit more complex than that. Yeah Cohen pled guilty but I would not take “he pled guilty” as knock-down evidence as to the validity of the FECA crime … people plead all the time to things they shouldn’t, because they’re afraid to go to trial and risk a worse sentence.
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Materialist Gnostic
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I'm pretty sure the "novel legal theory" is that it is acceptable to prosecute Trump for crimes.
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