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Anders Veiteberg
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Thank you. It’s touching that you phrase it that way, because for me it is more of a religious duty than anything else.
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singer, ph.d. candidate, 76ers fan, he/him
free palestine
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thank you. It’s touching that you phrase it that way, because for me it is more of a religious duty than anything else.
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Anders Veiteberg
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that’s very nice to hear. I’m fine, I would surely have felt a lot worse if I went along with the “non-political” program yesterday. And in the evening I got to talk with some of the amazing people at the Cambridge encampment!
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Anders Veiteberg
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It was striking to see the reactions to my talk on Palestine. Among the senior Bach scholars present, only one talked to me the next day. While all the phd-candidates were kind and supportive, even though we might have slightly different views. That brings hope.
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thank you!!!
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thanks😊
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Anders Veiteberg
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A friend told me what happened when I left: the head of the conference stood up and apologised for my actions, followed by loud acclamation. In the evening, my supervisor (the same person) asked me if I was mentally ill.
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Anders Veiteberg
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an update: I expected some kind of reaction, but there was a dead silence the whole time. Afterwards, there was a muted applause and no questions. The chair said something about "both sides" and peace. Then the next speaker came up and continued with a talk on Bach as if nothing had happened.
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Anders Veiteberg
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my new dishwasher has wi-fi :(
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thanks a lot, that helps. I'll introduce myself and then say something along those lines.
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Anders Veiteberg
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should I say something first, or just delve right into it?
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Anders Veiteberg
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I'm attending a Bach conference in Cambridge these days. It's the third day. No one has mentioned Palestine yet. Tomorrow, I'm scheduled to have a 5 minute presentation on aesthetics. I will read the newest Lancet publication on the death toll in Gaza instead.
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Anders Veiteberg
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yes!! I really appreciate Tankie Therapy, it feels like they articulate the emotions I have to keep inside. I learned so much from Mary Turfah's piece as well.
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Anders Veiteberg
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186 000 or even more deaths.
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Anders Veiteberg
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"Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza." Rasha Khatib et al., The Lancet, July 5, 2024.
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South Asian Iman 🇵🇸
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This was really good btw if anyone is interested ♥
youtu.be/BWWQbwofEVE?...
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Anders Veiteberg
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wow. So they could kill or jail someone and then earn money from their royalties? Sounds like a dystopian video game
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Anders Veiteberg
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so sorry to hear this. I’ve started to be a lot more guarded in discussions, which is also not right
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Anders Veiteberg
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I agree with this to some extent - but if people on the left try to do good without considering imperialism, they are often doing more harm than good.
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Anders Veiteberg
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that sounds like a Rudyard Kipling quote tbh
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Anders Veiteberg
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on my way to Cambridge from Oslo! The first leg went really well - night bus to Copenhagen, and all the trains were more or less punctual after that. Tomorrow I'll take EUROSTAR!
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Anders Veiteberg
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oh i'm sure he could extract a lot of money from the israeli state for instance
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Sasha Danielle
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Supermodel energy
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Anders Veiteberg
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lol I can imagine!
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Anders Veiteberg
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super cute!
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Anders Veiteberg
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a great essay from the early 1970s on the pitfalls of organising without structure by Jo Freeman.
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Jamal abu hashem🇵🇸
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Hello, I am Jamal from Gaza. Unfortunately, everything was destroyed in Gaza. My university, my studies, my beautiful city, my dreams, and everything is beautiful. Our lives are also in danger and the destruction is still continuing. You can help me rebuild my life
gofund.me/2f77e0ba
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Anders Veiteberg
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Huey P. Newton and so many Black intellectuals in the US.
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Anders Veiteberg
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one of my deeply controversial beliefs: academics should be able to tell non-academics why their work is relevant and deserves funding.
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Kim Crawley (she/her) 😷🍉
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I see the connection between Gaiman willfully spreading Covid (knowing he was infectious while going maskless back in December) and his being a (alleged) rapist. Even if you don't. Go several months back in my posting history. I have always been disgusted by people fawning over him.
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Anders Veiteberg
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Andreas Scholl performed “Handel Love Stories” on 9, 10, 12.3.2024 in Haifa, Tel Aviv and Acre together with a singer who has been heavily involved in the IDF arena concerts. The project was announced in February 2024. It is not that complicated.
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Anders Veiteberg
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lol. wow, that's incredible, I didn't know about this. And it seems like the NYC police protected the participants?
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Anders Veiteberg
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thanks for sharing! just donated - I would be happy if anyone has the means to do so as well.
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Anders Veiteberg
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he is touring Israel and supporting the IDF in this very moment! he is an ardent zionist! How is that "debatably forgivable"?
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Anders Veiteberg
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so I'm reading up on the early history of CIA, and it seems like some of the founding members (Frank Wisner, Carmel Offie) collaborated with N*azis during WW2? Is there any more literature on this? It would make sense that they cultivated relationships with them long before operation paperclip...
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Anders Veiteberg
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at least you're not touring Israel and directly supporting the IDF right now - so you're doing a lot better than Andreas Scholl.
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Anders Veiteberg
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just donated to this important fundraiser.
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Anders Veiteberg
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that's a super important perspective! I've heard about similar indigenous trading customs before, but they've been described as strategies to avoid violent conflict, and not as vital disease protocols, as you say. and it's hard not to see troubling echoes in the covid-19 pandemic today...
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thank you so much, really appreciate your help! As you imply - the fact that these myths are so prevalent, tells us that the elites have little interest in challenging them. my own ignorance is just an example
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Anders Veiteberg
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Sound great. Me too - I read way too many books at the same time
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Anders Veiteberg
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That's a super helpful way of thinking about it!! And the liberal approach is so effective, as Norwegians feel like they know a lot about WW2 or the history of the US, and don't need to educate themselves further.
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thank you so much. I've actually just started reading this book as well. Sometimes what we look for is right in front of us! Would love to share impressions later.
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Anders Veiteberg
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Absolutely. WW2 is seen through an American lens. We also watched Hollywood films in class, such as Schindler's List or Saving Private Ryan. And the Marshall Plan is a big part of the Norwegian identity, it is seen as the catalyst for the economic upturn in the following years.
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Liverpool Comrade
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I think you just answered your own question there? For the same reason that conservatives don't want the crimes of the transatlantic slave trade exposed. Conservatives want to erase the history of all oppressed populations, while liberals want to whitewash it instead.
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thanks, I'll check it out! I would also imagine that infections and disease were used as part of the colonial project
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Anders Veiteberg
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Hehe, exactly. But I really like these kind of approaches. I'm starting to wake up to how much my education in Norway helped instill an acceptance of US-imperialism, so I have a lot of counter-reading to do!
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Anders Veiteberg
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Yes, I'm aware of this - Hitler's American Model is a good reference. My question is more about the two kinds of pedagogical approaches - why is this taught as an unfortunate accident and not as a genocide to primary school children?
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Anders Veiteberg
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Thanks! It's a cool and strange piece: 1) "Finally, we'd still likely be a monarchy, under the rule of Elizabeth II, and constitutional monarchy is the best system of government known to man." 2) "Monarchs are more effective than presidents precisely because they lack any semblance of legitimacy."
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Anders Veiteberg
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In primary school, we were taught that the genocide of Natives in the Americas was caused by infections. It was never described as a genocide, only as unfortunate mass-death, similar to the Black Death in Europe. Are there any articles or books that engages with these conflicting interpretations? 🗃
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Anders Veiteberg
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now this is a theology that doesn't negate violence. Free Palestine.
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"God’s Word is called rain, because it drives the sin-worms out of the heart; thunder, because it causes a healing destruction and kills the fruit of sin; a hammer that strikes rocks, because it breaks and softens the soul hardened in sin.” Heinrich Müller, Göttliche Liebesflamme, 1676
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