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"Don't worry, if the president imprisons his political enemies, you can still get a writ of habeas corpus." "But to prove that's why you've been imprisoned requires proof of..." "Presidential motive!" "And under Trump v US, presidential motive is..." "Inadmissible!"
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Coriolus Nimrod
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Is evidence of motive inadmissible for the purposes of habeas, or just for the purpose of criminal prosecution of presidents and ex-presidents? I am not saying I have a lot of faith SCOTUS would not expand the principle, but I understood they had not done so yet.
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Adam Bonin
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I'm actually not as sure on this part. The ruling clearly says you can't use such evidence in a prosecution of the President; I'm not sure if it means such evidence can't be used in any other proceeding (though, of course, that's not foreclosed here).
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Justin Stanley
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I don’t like this version of the Aristocrats
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@robjackel.bsky.social
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Not a fan of this new Beastie Boys track.
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@hermannledlos.bsky.social
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Bonkers. No criminal case could be brought against the president, but the evidence could be used in any other case. There is a ton of jurisdiction about that, because a lot of people enjoy even a broader immunity compared with the "half immunity" the SCOTUS granted to the POTUS.
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John O’Donnell
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I wouldn’t worry about it. I’m sure your Star Chamber will just bring a Bill of Attainder. What do you mean they are outlawed by The Constitution? We’ll just call them Don’s of Palship.
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Ely Rabani #GazaCeasefireNow
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Actually motive is clearly inadmissible in a prosecution of the president, but dues the ruling actually make it inadmissible in a Habeas case concerning the right to liberty of an imprisoned plaintiff? Wouldn’t seem that that would impair the legitimate functioning the executive.
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John Bracken
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I'd say the fastest way to have that undone would be for Biden to go and do it, but they'd just play calvinball.
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@saveamerica.bsky.social
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This is as insane as it sounds
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Brian DeViteri
@bsbeamer.bsky.social
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I’m going to need a Schoolhouse Rock reboot to explain this new system of Government.
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Christian Mott
@cjmott.bsky.social
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Strictly speaking, you can get a writ of habeas corpus by showing that there is no legal basis for detention, which does not require showing an improper motive. But that means your liberty will depend on whether the President's lawyers can come up with any legitimate reason. Cf. Trump v. Hawaii.
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PJ Coffey - Homebrew And Hacking TTRPG Design
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I live in a country with an actual king and pretty sure he's not allowed to do such despotic things. If you want Charles III you're very welcome to him.
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Sebastian Peitsch
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It’s funny how even I, a rando German, understood this instantly Yet there are people who dropped their brain in a jar somewhere running around as law professor zombies
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Gargarak
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I think this actually isn't right--it's inadmissible in a criminal prosecution of the former president, not in any case or proceeding.
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@rst.bsky.social
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And if the court issues the writ anyway and the President just ignores it... then what?
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WasteLandRover
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"But the president discussed their intent with their aides." "But those discussions are..." "Inadmissible!"
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