Matt Crespi

Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 03:08 UTC

I posted a response and deleted it. I need to think about this some more. I still think it's useful and probably correct to be able to call out organizational agendas, and I don't like standards that make that basically impossible, but I lack a better operationalization.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 01:47 UTC

Merge two films The Full Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 01:38 UTC

What % of the people or of the decisionmaking power have to see themselves as collectively working toward an end? And does the "collective" impression have to be reciprocal in all cases?

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 01:29 UTC

An AI teaching assistant sounds impressive, but keep in mind that in grad school, I programmed a pretty good one all on my own with no coding experience or LLM, just an email autoresponder that says "It's in the syllabus."

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 01:26 UTC

She's a babkat! (...works better out loud...) I'll see myself out.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 01:19 UTC

So you're saying if everyone in an organization is collaboratively working towards the same agenda, the organization itself still isn't until someone says it out loud?

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 00:56 UTC

It's too hot for semantics; let's just form a global movement to reverse climate change and maybe do something about urban heat island effects in the meantime.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 11, 2024 at 00:52 UTC

But it's set up in a way where no one can act alone. That's the structure -- assignments, research, writing, editing, publishing...every story is touched by lots of people.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 21:38 UTC

In the NYTimes case, the people who set up the system aren't the same people as the ones (allegedly) using it for a different agenda, but in the hypothetical let's pretend the musicians had never even heard of bluegrass when forming their metal band.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 21:37 UTC

Insurers using AI to deny claims faster prompts doctors to use AI to argue back. One of the better arguments for Medicare for All (or another systemic fix, pick your favorite) that I've ever seen. At what point do we admit that this just isn't a good system?

www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/h...

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:44 UTC

New social media headcanon: everyone who disagrees with me is a chatbot designed to undermine civilization until proven otherwise.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:41 UTC

I think the structure operates at least 1 level of abstraction above the agenda and intent. We set up a songwriting structure, purpose is to write metal songs, but can be used for a bluegrass agenda. We set up a newspaper intending to do good journalism but can do hack journalism too.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:23 UTC

Look, I feel pretty strongly I'm on solid ground here, and I wish I didn't have a day job so I could really spend the requisite hours emphatically laying out in excruciating detail why you're wro--OH NO IS THIS HOW ACADEMIC PHILOSOPHERS HAPPEN

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:21 UTC

No they weren't; they were built for a different purpose and are being used for what I'm calling the new agenda.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:06 UTC

*Holding my breath while you spring whatever clever philosopher logic trap you've laid out for me to blithely enter*

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 19:05 UTC

But we're not talking about strangers; they already exist in an organization and coordinate daily. This would be like a metal band deciding to do one bluegrass song. It's not what the organization was set up for, but if they all wanted to do it, yeah, I'd say their agenda this week is bluegrass.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 18:51 UTC

So if every executive, board member, and manager unanimously agreed to pursue an end but did it in a temporary/ad hoc way with no structures in place, just choices we're all making this week, you're OK not counting that? You might be too far away from common usage to talk to non-philosophers here 😬

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 18:47 UTC

That seems like a high bar not clearable by many examples where an overwhelming majority of people would reasonably agree "oh yeah, they totally have an agenda." It definitely minimizes false positives, but to my reading it seems too strict to be usefully applied to this kind of discourse.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 18:42 UTC

What set(s) of criteria would you accept as a sufficient threshold for an organization to have an agenda?

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 16:22 UTC

Not saying that the whole organization is "in on it," but that level of incompetence without someone getting fired and/or a big apology being blasted out everywhere makes it pretty clear that leadership has an agenda on this.

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Matt Crespi @mattcrespi.bsky.social [ View ] Jul 10, 2024 at 16:20 UTC

I'd normally agree, but heavily implying that Biden might have Parkinson's based on White House visits from a Parkinson's doctor, while ignoring the big Parkinson's bill they were working on or failing to check if Biden was even in the building during all those visits, really feels targeted.

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