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Michael Tae Sweeney@mtsw.bsky.social |
Seeing some discourse about old buildings vs new buildings and like, 1) yes most old buildings are built very solidly. no that's not because they used to build every building very well, its because the 98% of buildings from 100 years ago are gone and only the well-built ones made it
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Silly B Man
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There’s also an asterisk that because we didn’t have computers capable of calculating stresses on every component, to make something built to last we had to massively over-engineer every component. So lots of parts of lots of stuff is overbuilt
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Michael Tae Sweeney
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2) its true a lot of "luxury" new construction is barely distinguishable from bare-bones new construction, that's NOT true of multi-million $ modernist mansions. building an austere-looking glass and steel modernist home is often *more* expensive than an equivalent building covered in decoration
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Virginia S. O'Possum
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Reminds me of when my dad told me I shouldn't worry about stone foundations in old houses because "if they lasted this long they're not likely to collapse tomorrow."
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David Bonowitz
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This is a long thread, and though I'm tempted to get to all of it, I'll just note: -- 98% of U.S. buildings from the 1920s are NOT gone. If some were demolished en masse, it's more likely because of "urban renewal" etc. -- You might be confusing the durable structure w/ other building components.
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@drpepsi.bsky.social
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Old buildings being built solidly is often a sleight of hand. The columns of the high Gothic cathedrals look like solid stone. They are actually a veneer of stone encasing a core of rubble mixed with lime.
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Alan
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A lot of the solidity of old buildings (eg dense heavy doors) in the US came from how they were made from cheap timber that came from clear-cutting old growth forests across the continent
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N.N. Scott
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Agree, but not sure this is provably true. The survival of old buildings has so many factors: real estate price, financial incentives, historical significance, great big fires, etc. Some preserved old buildings were quite trashily built. The Yellowstone Lodge was not intended to last a century.
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robertus
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It's a bit like the notion that nobody wrote anything down during the Dark Ages, or that historical figures must be legends or made up out of whole cloth because there "are no independent records" of them. They did and there mighta been, we just ain't got 'em.
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Professor Furious
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Kind of like evolution, really. Look around and see the baddest asses so far.
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@pershing48.bsky.social
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While I was in Durham last week I walked past a new 5 over 1 building across the street from an apartment building that looked maybe 50 years old. Affordable housing always looks ugly by the standards of the day, get over it.
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