Here's a link to the full conversation. It's depressing as hell, but still very much worth your time. What the right wing SCOTUS has been up to over the past few years is the latest iteration of a very long, anti-New-Deal-State project that's been at work since the 1930s. slate.com/podcasts/ami...
If anyone thinks SCOTUS will save us from the ramifications of Project 2025 (if any Republican is in the WH), they are sadly mistaken! Not this group of egotistical, self serving, hypocrites!
There's a ton of good historical work on this anti-New Deal long game of the US right. This is a good introduction if you're interested. www.google.com/books/editio...
Nothing scares me more right now than the current Supreme Court. We need to expand the court. As radical as that seems, it is nowhere near as radical as what the conservatives on the court are doing.