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Sen. Gogurt taking notes on a criminal conspiracy

@ugarles.bsky.social

that would be true - and i say this as a left-winger who would crawl through broken glass to vote against Trump - were it not for Gaza. you can't hand-wave Gaza and call it maturity. i don't ever want to be so self-important that i get angry about people i like and admire having an ethical line.

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Sen. Gogurt taking notes on a criminal conspiracy's avatar Sen. Gogurt taking notes on a criminal conspiracy @ugarles.bsky.social
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no offense to @stephenjudkins.bsky.social! things can get tense around this.

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wilp's avatar wilp @wilp.bsky.social
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it’s the best domestic policy delivery for americans since fdr and why as a 2 time bernie voter/donor/volunteer i was excited about 2024 until october 7.

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Gretchen Felker-Martin 🍉's avatar Gretchen Felker-Martin 🍉 @scumbelievable.bsky.social
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this is it. you can't walk past genocide on your way to having a Practical Opinion.

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Absolute maturity involves understanding that people have valid reasons not to have it. Not everyone can be a Vulcan.

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John Del Signore's avatar John Del Signore @johndelsignore.bsky.social
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Yes and the choice is binary here. Does your entirely justified outrage over this horror justify empowering Donald Trump and all his cronies? Do you think Trump's relationship with Bibi will be better for Palestinians than a Democratic president? www.reuters.com/world/us/don...

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Chris, Keeper of the Sacred Floof's avatar Chris, Keeper of the Sacred Floof @calmicc.bsky.social
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Perfectly stated, sir. Co-signed, an anarchist.

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George Pearkes's avatar George Pearkes @peark.es
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Very fair but it’s worth remember who was pro- and anti-Biden on the left on 10/6/23 and there were an enormous number in the second camp who swapped “Biden inflation” or “Biden no student loan forgiveness” for “Gaza” over 24 hours. Doesn’t minimize others’ principled stances to be honest about this

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Mithos's avatar Mithos @mithos343.bsky.social
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You said it. This is the truth.

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Turbo Duo Lipa's avatar Turbo Duo Lipa @cambrianera.radical.town
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Yeah. I don't love every bit of his domestic policy but it was generally pretty okay. Better than I expected in places with some notable disappointments. But I cannot fault people who find his foreign policy to be a line they can't cross.

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Fnord Borgly's avatar Fnord Borgly @borgly.bsky.social
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I take those concerns more seriously from folks who are aware of the Sudan and Tigray massacres, and of which branch of government decides to fund Israeli arms.

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potato doritos's avatar potato doritos @potato-doritos.bsky.social
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Where is the left wing policy? Where is this magical great policy? They keep saying it's there but I'm not seeing it. Obama did Obamacare, that was actually pretty shit but I don't think that the kind of person who does "Biden = FDR" posts thinks that

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AkivaMCohen's avatar AkivaMCohen @akivamcohen.bsky.social
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For those folks on the left for whom Gaza is the defining line, sure. But we both know there were plenty of people on the left who hated biden on October 6 2023 too

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War Hater's avatar War Hater @rainbowbody.bsky.social
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It is not that he is good domestically and bad internationally, it's not that simple. He is always full on backing the blue. His FDA/DEA has been horrendous to chronic pain and ADHD patients. His declaring freedom from masks and COVID early... I'm voting against Trump but Biden has a list of fails.

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Gary Alexander's avatar Gary Alexander @garyalexander.bsky.social
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the left *did* give him credit for quite a few things, including afghanistan when they were the only ones. the trouble is who is reporting that, and who is reading about it? ex: the congressional left, "the squad," helped pass most of Biden's accomplishments more reliably than the centrists did

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mmmm, paint chips 's avatar mmmm, paint chips @shamr0cker.bsky.social
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Yeah, I am not ok with our weapons used in killing families, and I would understand if we had another 9/11. I am not saying it’s right or just but I understand why people call us the great Satan and want to kill us for this. Trump is far worse but Biden is being dog walked by Bibi.

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