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"Nobody used to think men exploiting women was wrong" is up there with "Nobody used to think slavery was wrong" as a really impressive giveaway of who you think counts as "nobody".

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Watson Neith's avatar Watson Neith @watsonneith.bsky.social
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When George Washington was trying to get Ona Judge (who escaped from being a wedding gift in a Southern state) back, he lied to the guy sent to retrieve her about how a Frenchman "deceived her" and later threatened to enslave her children. I think about that a lot when this argument comes up.

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Traveller In Black's avatar Traveller In Black @traveller-in-black.bsky.social
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I think I saw something like it, a kind of pamphlet, from Airstrip One, on my travels. "A Book of Goodthink: Axioms from the desk of Big Brother." The subtitle was "How to make Newspeak work for your Advancement in the Party" and it had an entire section on how to make single words do a lot of work.

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Ugly Margarita's avatar Ugly Margarita @ncalcote.bsky.social
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I got an A-Ha moment out of one of my conservative raised but smart kids a couple of years ago when she said “well slavery wasn’t illegal then” when I asked her “who wrote the laws?”

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A Wooloo for all seasons's avatar A Wooloo for all seasons @mockwooloo.bsky.social
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And the related "That was just how people talked back then, it was the accepted word" The book King Solomon's Mines (pub 1885), hardly a paragon of progressive modern wokeness, has great white hero Allan Quartermain refusing to use the N-word because he considers it disrespectful and offensive.

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Joshua Keep's avatar Joshua Keep @jekeep.bsky.social
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And it's complete BS no matter how you look at it. Even amongst privileged classes, there were always people who saw how wrong slavery, etc were.

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Umbire's avatar Umbire @umbire.bsky.social
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coconut tree ass take

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maniagnosis 's avatar maniagnosis @maniagnosis.bsky.social
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One of my favorites:

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Al Petterson's avatar Al Petterson @eyelessgame.bsky.social
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As well as "nobody used to think discrimination against LGBTQ people was wrong"

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RFK jr's brain worm's avatar RFK jr's brain worm @rfksbrainworm.bsky.social
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The same is implicit in statements like "you can't judge historical figures by modern standards". There might be some elements of truth to that, but it starts to fall apart when you're talking about stuff like slave ownership

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May “Bunny” Peterson 🌸's avatar May “Bunny” Peterson 🌸 @goddessblade.bsky.social
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I shudder to think who is saying this garbage. The gross thing is how thinking like this steps around the fact that male power, sexual abuse, and exploitation are in many ways STILL not seen as bad things that pervade the world that need stopped.

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Annie B Kay 's avatar Annie B Kay @anniebkay.bsky.social
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🌊🌊😂🌊🌊

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Alison Fincher's avatar Alison Fincher @alisonfincher.bsky.social
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This is my favorite defense of Columbus because it’s so damn easy to refute. The man was FORBIDDEN FROM TAKING SLAVES BY THE SPANISH CROWN. Did it anyway.

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Christinn's avatar Christinn @mackanick.bsky.social
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That's well put. Hope some women of certain religion find inspiration in this.

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Lesley A Hall's avatar Lesley A Hall @erinacean.bsky.social
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Let me cite the Marquis de Condorcet, who published this in 1789 (this is translation by leading British feminist and birth control advocate) www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/3... He was also anti-slavery. C18th Woke guy.

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can't wait until it's "nobody used to think exploiting and destroying everything you touch bc you beieve you own all you can see was wrong..."

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Collar Thirteen🏴🇺🇦🇵🇸🔞's avatar Collar Thirteen🏴🇺🇦🇵🇸🔞 @strawberry92fs.bsky.social
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Isn't the story of Lillith literally about a woman saying she didn't want to be oppressed by a man? Like. People were aware of it enough to paint resistance as evil back in ancient times.

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