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Madhusudan 🦉 Katti@leafwarbler.bsky.social |
It is enormously frustrating to know, as an evolutionary biologist with experience from the trenches of the creationist wars on science, that nobody on Biden’s team nor CNN’s seem to be aware of the Gish Gallop, 30y after Eugenie Scott described it and years of Trump deploying it!
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Madhusudan 🦉 Katti
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Even more frustrating when I know for a fact that the White House science office has scientists with scicomm expertise and good understanding of such tactics. But it doesn’t look like the campaign talks to them much. Biden really needs a better comms team!
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☀️ Starshine
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fwiw i think trump stipulated no fact checking and biden agreed to it so it was part of the debate but cnn shouldve never gone along with it
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Ash McGonigal
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As someone who was a student in an evangelical middle school 30 years ago I have seen many an evolutionary biologist have worse times on debate stages than President Biden did.
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Scott #ACAB Black Lives Matter Menor 🍉
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These fuckers legit think it’s still the 1970s and somehow never adapted to Reagan or Gingrich or Limbaugh let alone anything more recent
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@wyominghippie.bsky.social
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i don't know where you'd find it, but this strategy predates gish by quite sometime, and there are canonical strategies to beat it. the wiki article on "spreading" is terrible, but there are literally how to guides on how to beat this that are for sale.
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amdiamanti
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I still can’t believe that after the 2000 debates anyone still thinks trying to get out as many facts and stats as you can in 2 minutes is the way to go.
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Potomatic
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I wrote an entire college paper on this exact thing and I’m tearing my hair out
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Jak
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You never debate someone who will use a Gish Gallop Just decline, it's impossible to win
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blackmask/nyc
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Neat, I didn’t realize this had a name.
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web2filter
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CNN practiced a refusal to work during the TV duel between Biden and Trump by stopping any serious journalistic work and only keeping the camera on it, thus slipping into the simplest form of tabloid reporting.
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Carrie K
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And it's an enormously effective tactic against someone with a stutter - which is an issue with language processing in the brain. Biden dealt with Trump successfully last time because he told Trump to shut up on a hot mic and everyone was surprised and thought it was funny.
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Pppatticake
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They are incompetent
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Charles King
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It appears that CNN has given up "journalism" in favor of "broadcasting." Since there are so many other broadcasters, what exactly is CNN here for?
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