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Michael Tae Sweeney

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The media (which wants Trump to win) already setting the framing for the debate. Biden must be "vigorous" - i.e. avoid even a single misspeak or stumble - while the expectations for Trump are merely that he not spend the entire debate screaming incoherently.

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Wearing a HR Monitor while taking a poo 's avatar Wearing a HR Monitor while taking a poo @davidbyrneenjoyer.bsky.social
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This might be a dumb question (and I’m sure the reason is very stupid) but why are they debating in June of an election year? Isn’t this a thing that happens in the fall after they have accepted the nominations?

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JoyousPanther's avatar JoyousPanther @joyouspanther.bsky.social
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I'm reminded of after their first debate in 2020, the media said Trump won because he was so forceful (acting crazy and rude) and then they got polling results of the debate watchers and they thought Biden did better.

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peppermintjack's avatar peppermintjack @peppermintjack.bsky.social
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oligarchic media owners remembering how they were able to destroy the hated howard dean by blowing up a single awkward moment into an endless loop of negative coverage and they're hoping they can do the same thing to biden

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Michael Tae Sweeney's avatar Michael Tae Sweeney @mtsw.bsky.social
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This sort of pre-debate framing lets them take almost any outcome that doesn't involve Trump shitting himself on stage or Biden batting 1.000 on never stuttering, and spin it as a win for Trump.

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Chair of the Sewer Maintenance Board's avatar Chair of the Sewer Maintenance Board @sidewalkslam.bsky.social
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Trump will be lauded if he can be as good as Gillberg and Biden will be ridiculed if he's only as good as Goldberg

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Sava's avatar Sava @unicorntickles.bsky.social
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And get he’ll scream incoherently and still win over the media because he didn’t visibly shit his pants.

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Dan Greenberg's avatar Dan Greenberg @dangco.bsky.social
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Just remember how awful Trump had to be in a debate vs Biden for the press to actually acknowledge he was awful. Even after that it was framed as a “tactic gone wrong” rather than a character flaw or signs of mental distress

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Reminds me of an old Daily Show bit about GWB vs Kerry, with the GOP surrogate setting the stage for any outcome being a win for Bush. “Kerry is a US SENATOR! The most fearsome oratory combatants the world has ever seen!! Honestly, the public should see not peeing his pants as a huge win for W!”

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I think Biden’s advisor gave him bad advice in encouraging him to debate a convicted felon who has no business being allowed to run for any govt office least of all President.

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Ed Burmila's avatar Ed Burmila @edburmila.bsky.social
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Palin/Biden 2008 debate rules. She didn't drool on herself, she won!

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My only glass half full on all of this is that I still think the impact of the old stuff is softer than we think. Just as an anecdote my mom brought up the age issue re: debate. She got it because she saw someone mention it on the news, not organically. And it's a worry for her, not an issue.

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M. G. Daskivich's avatar M. G. Daskivich @daskivich.bsky.social
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Al Gore sighing during the 2000 debates set the entire cursed course of 21st century.

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Dmitri's avatar Dmitri @momus.bsky.social
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trump: spends the entire debate screaming incoherently the media: “well, nevertheless….”

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Kalil's avatar Kalil @kalilchernov.bsky.social
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The only good news is... Odds are north of 60% Trump spends the entire debate screaming incoherently. First time they shut off his mic, he's going to intuit that if he shouts loud enough, Biden's will pick it up.

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Hard Boiled Egg's avatar Hard Boiled Egg @perigominas.bsky.social
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"while the expectations for Trump are merely that he not spend the entire debate screaming incoherently." They're going to be disappointed, aren't they?

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David M. Schulman's avatar David M. Schulman @dmschulman.bsky.social
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trump will pick his vp based on whoever delivers the best post-debate biden zinger

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Matt's avatar Matt @mttlvn.bsky.social
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The whole thing is so irredeemably stupid, part of me is hoping Biden will show up in workout clothes and do a bunch of reps with free weights or something "vigorous." "My opponent should read the debate rules he agreed to. There's nothing that says I can't have a Nautilus machine on stage."

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SⓐS🈂️ⓐ  's avatar SⓐS🈂️ⓐ @midnightblau.bsky.social
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MSM is why we're here, and why he didn't go away after most former President's do when they lose (and he most def. lost a legit election).

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Scott Johnson's avatar Scott Johnson @scottjohnson.wtf
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literally the first folks going to jail when he wins is a small comfort

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Asher: Hopefully Springing Eternal's avatar Asher: Hopefully Springing Eternal @asherd.bsky.social
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Can't wait for the morning after "Is Joe Biden Too Worked Up About His Re-Election Campaign?" headlines

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