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David Noll

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john yoo understood better than most that even a frivolous constitutional argument is all the permission the right needs to pursue its autocratic ambitions and the legal establishment still hasn't come up with a good response

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Jinesh Gheeya, MD, PhD's avatar Jinesh Gheeya, MD, PhD @jinesh.bsky.social
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Is that the torture memo guy?

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Syn Fawkes's avatar Syn Fawkes @synicism.bsky.social
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I'm not one to wish violence upon another human being but he's one guy that, if I knew there would be no repercussions, would gladly take five minutes in a room alone with him and no cameras. Just saying.

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zenosAnalytic's avatar zenosAnalytic @zenosanalytic.bsky.social
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the right IS the legal establishment, or at least they set its agenda to a significant degree. "Law and Economics" was just blatantly a conservative legal movement from the start, now standard in legal ed, and the bias for conservatives in clerking is no secret.

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Ben Fowler's avatar Ben Fowler @benmffowler.bsky.social
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Is there a legal remedy for what is essentially a guy using his left hand to talk to the right hand and then agreeing with himself? I mean there are legal remedies we aren't pursuing like impeaching judges for bribery or other more mechanical means like packing the court.

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lawless's avatar lawless @lawless523.bsky.social
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It is a disgrace that Yoo is employed as a law professor. At fucking Berkeley, of all places! His authorship of the torture memo should have disqualified him from a professorship anyplace with pretensions to intellectual integrity.

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Pablozí's avatar Pablozí @pablozi.bsky.social
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In canada it's the same deal. The right found out it doesn't need a good excuse, it just needs an excuse. By the time the left and the media are done talking about it, other boundries have already been crossed. Old rules about decorum can be trumped by speed and shameless lies.

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Space Commander Travis's avatar Space Commander Travis @cmdrtravis.bsky.social
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John Yoo’s torture memo accomplishes the incredible feat of claiming that you can avoid liability for a crime against humanity by intentionally separating the actus reus and mens rea across two separate actors with a straight face

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Michael 's avatar Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social
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i mean there's lots of good responses, but they're just not palatable to the legal and political establishment. throwing the lot of them in jail would've been a good start!

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Warhammerchick's avatar Warhammerchick @celticdragon1.bsky.social
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Just get the OLC to draft a half assed opinion to cover you and you are apparently untouchable forever

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To me the scary thing about Yoo's argument is how logical it can sound. He posits that respect to interrogation there is a space between torture at one end of the spectrum and Constitutionally protected rights like the 4th and 5th amendments way down near the other end of the spectrum. (1/ )

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Thomas Knapp (chemiclord)'s avatar Thomas Knapp (chemiclord) @tkocreations.com
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Because if you believe that laws should mean something, there really isn't a logical, legal response to "neener neener."

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Rumpole the Brief's avatar Rumpole the Brief @rumpole-brief.bsky.social
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We have failed to learn what every troll on the Net knows - mockery has power. The legal profession needs to remember ridiculous arguments do not deserve to be respected. And those who make them do not respect the law and deserve nothing but ridicule in turn. Certsinly not Ivy professorships.

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Catbus 's avatar Catbus @catbus.bsky.social
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and thus a respected professor of law at Woke University 🙏

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Mary Joy's avatar Mary Joy @maryjoy.bsky.social
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I know Ashcroft is on balance not good but his nickname for Yoo (Dr. Yes) always makes me laugh. Can we crush testicles? Dr. Yes, says "YES!"

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