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Will Stancil@whstancil.bsky.social |
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Minnesota guy
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Will Stancil
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People miss it because they read Biden as a centrist, but he’s positioned himself in the center of a coalition that’s pretty heavy on labor progressivism, and he’s spent years continually trying to demonstrate his real successes over the noisy contempt of slick suit Dems and chattering class types
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Will Stancil
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If you wanted a master narrative of Biden’s presidency, you could do a lot worse than “worker-oriented progressives and liberals achieve huge policy success, but are continually brought low by DLC centrists, Obama techy Dems, and glitzy media types, who turn everyone against the pro-worker faction”
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Will Stancil
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Lol Trump’s biggest vulnerability of the entire campaign is literally peaking and Democrats are wasting the moment fighting their own president. Sincerely, what are you guys doing
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Will Stancil
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This is really good and honest. It’s a terribly confusing situation, one of the only things we can really know for sure is that Dems lacing into Dems for some blurry greater good are probably not helping anything.
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Brooke Pierce
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Meanwhile, what I keep seeing among so many regular folks is concern over Project 2025 and frustration that Dems aren't talking about it.
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Will Stancil
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the little coconut in the profile and everything. just another cause to sign up for.
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Will Stancil
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how can these guys pretend to be such intellectuals and not understand “ripping your own incumbent president out of the race in a panic is both logistically very difficult and politically self-destructive” as an objection
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Will Stancil
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a bad debate has become a national panic, it’s unthinkable that that our unaccountable, ethics-free pundit class have this kind of influence
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Will Stancil
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it’s the daily avalanche from the times and other media that has turned “the debate” into 30 minutes of discomfort into a hinge point of US history. we will never be able to explain this. we’re turning Biden into Carter, Nixon, LBJ, and Eagleton all wrapped into one for the crime of still being old
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Will Stancil
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most successful progressive president of my lifetime being eaten alive by terrified centrist lemmings in the party because he dared defy the New York Times will be something I will never forgive or forget tbh
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Will Stancil
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It’s like Biden’s continual efforts to fix economic sentiment by improving real indicators. If the problem is that people’s screens are distorting the real world, you can’t fix the problem by fixing the real world.
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Will Stancil
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One thing I love is how every single person on Twitter thinks Harris could improve her polls by “actually campaigning” without realizing that Biden is in fact actually campaigning. The problem is you’re in a media bubble that ignores him in favor of a narrative, and it’ll probably ignore her too
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George Pearkes
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*NBC ANCHOR LESTER HOLT WILL INTERVIEW BIDEN ON MONDAY
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Will Stancil
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It’s the same thought process you see on the MAGA right - the solution to everything is “promote the Trump meme, roll over dissenters”
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Will Stancil
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And now they’re sure the obstacle is the people who haven’t professed loyalty who are being derided as traitors and hacks. If only everyone can share the meme the problem will be solved
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Will Stancil
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The latter is a major consequence of social media meme politics - there’s a lot of rage and confusion because they’ve gotten the Biden panic meme to go insanely viral but the world isn’t just… fixing itself as a consequence
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Will Stancil
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It’s people who see politics as navigating a process versus people who see it as holding a belief
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Aaron Huertas
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There should be way more Dems on this.
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Marduk Kurios
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When his other appearances seem to confirm the claim that he was ill and the debate was an aberration and not the norm, why is there no response to this new information? After the debate there was agreement that Biden needs to get out and show it was a one-off, and he did that. So.....
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Will Stancil
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Anyway I’m very aware that people here are pretty committed to their exit strategy. But it has consequences for the discourse and we can be honest about that too
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Will Stancil
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The problem currently is just that the organic social networks on Twitter don’t contain reasonable voices. Like I’m not getting algorithmically filtered when I express caution on Biden. I’m just outnumbered
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Will Stancil
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The Biden consensus on Twitter and Bluesky is almost diametrically opposed, with Twitter driving mainstream coverage - a pretty compelling illustration of how social media groupthink is incredibly powerful, and how the exodus of liberals to a low-profile site has caused real damage to the discourse
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Will Stancil
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people have adopted an almost religious fanaticism about this obviously risky approach
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Will Stancil
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it’s actually possible to be sincerely skeptical that ejecting your party’s sitting president four months before an election because of a weird bad debate is a good idea
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Will Stancil
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the anti-Biden stuff is turning cultish and weird. people doing weird denunciations and whatnot, like what is this
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Will Stancil
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democrats up by three points: “we’re gonna lose, panic” democrats down by three points: “I see literally no path to victory”
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Will Stancil
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“the guys who spent years spitting in my face are now advising me to jump off a bridge out of very sincere concern that the bridge may not be safe” - forgive me if I’m suspicious
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Will Stancil
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what’s especially grating is the continuous insistence that these people are just good-faith democrats sincerely concerned about Biden’s debate performance, instead of what they obviously are: toxic wreckers who have hated Biden for years and leap on any halfway plausible rationale to attack Dems
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Will Stancil
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“I’ll destroy the Democratic Party to save it” doesn’t really make it seem like your primary motivation is harm mitigation to be honest
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Will Stancil
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It is in fact very often the case that a country or group is burdened with a leader who is worse than many potential alternatives, and also the process of changing that leader risks the greatest harms of all.
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Will Stancil
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So many people are missing this! Biden doesn’t want to drop! Which means the non-Biden options all include “Step one: wage war against the Democratic Party to destroy the president and force him from the race,” which is a cure likely worse than the disease and what makes these options untenable
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Will Stancil
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projection hall of fame
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Don Moynihan
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Can someone start a dashboard counting number of NYT stories on Biden's age and NYT reporters assigned to the topic?
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Will Stancil
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It’s cool how this story started with anti-vax mass murderer Alex Berenson and was then published in the Times and definitely no one should take a moment to reflect on what it means that we’re doing that now
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Will Stancil
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Once it became clear Biden wasn’t going to step down - pretty unsurprising the president wouldn’t leave after bombing a debate - there wasn’t any good path that didn’t involve shooting him full of holes, so that’s kinda that
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Will Stancil
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The thing for me is that I genuinely want Trump to lose extremely badly so I’m extremely reluctant to shoot anyone who could plausibly be on ballot opposite him full of holes under any circumstances, even if doing so might in some scenarios result in him having a stronger opponent
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Will Stancil
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oh my god it’s the smoking gun, proving that the times only believes it has agency over Democrats, so much so that it has mistaken the November election for a Democratic primary where voters choose the most electable candidate
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Tom Scocca
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Is Joe Biden the opinion editor—or news editor—of the New York Times? Why does Biden have to do anything to put all the extremely newsworthy facts in this paragraph into heavy rotation at the top of the homepage? Why say "of course" Trump should drop out when you haven't written that he should?
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Will Stancil
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I don’t even mind that people raised the possibility, sounded it out, etc. But acting like it was a foregone conclusion is so reckless!!
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Will Stancil
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People felt VERY free to tear chunks off Biden because they figured he was cooked. But driving out a president is a big deal, and now they’ve just potentially mortally wounded him while failing
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Will Stancil
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I feel like some people just substantially underestimated the difficulty of jettisoning a sitting president and burned a lot of pretty important bridges based on that faulty assumption
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Will Stancil
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Yes, it’s fine to be worried about the debate, it’s fine to wish we had another nominee, it’s fine to think about how to make it happen. But the fixation on replacing has become a rationale for waging open war on DEMOCRATS, which over time is doing considerably more damage than the debate did
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Will Stancil
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Even outside the extremely overheated rhetoric about Biden’s supposed infirmity, his opponent is DONALD TRUMP, who shares every deficiency of Biden’s and many more! Stop assuming that we lose because we don’t nominate the platonic ideal of a candidate!
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Will Stancil
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It’s really hard to say the juice is worth the squeeze when “the squeeze” is “steamrolling over huge parts of your own party’s base and making clear their voices are irrelevant and unwanted” and the juice is “Kamala Harris”
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Will Stancil
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What the media talkers never understood was that the entire reason this anti-Biden crusade was a hellaciously bad idea wasn’t because it’s impossible to theorize a better ticket (it’s easy) but because presidents have supporters and the only way to replace one is war with your own party
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Will Stancil
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Also, I’m amazed by the media types who are currently openly trying to push out a sitting president - something that has happened once in history, in a historic scandal - and are mad that lots of people are angry and upset. It’s like “Oh right you think you’re supposed to just dictate events to us”
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Will Stancil
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I feel like we may come to regret such a thing! Just a hunch!
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Will Stancil
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I mean is it possible that the most progressive president of my lifetime had a single bad debate night and now bunch of unelected chatterers are going to attack him until he drops out, overruling the normal democratic process
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Will Stancil
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has Biden actually done anything after the debate that was disqualifying or is the building crisis entirely a bunch of media figures who took an extreme view and now need to force Biden out or eat crow, and have decided the best way to do that is destroy him electorally
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Will Stancil
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Same stuff, but his followers kept making the threat explicit and he’d reply to me pointing that out by just reiterating the countdown. So I dunno, felt pretty clear to me what the meaning was
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