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drow zelensky@dov.bsky.social |
I mean at core this would be true if not for the fact that Biden has completely fucked one specific high salience issue for leftwing voters. Like do people just not believe that young people care about the whole Palestine shebang or
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Emissary Of Night | ليلى
@diplomatofnight.com
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Yes a lot of people genuinely do believe that the disproportionately blacker, browner, gayer, more progressive youth is disingenuous about its support for an issue which has a lot of parallels to BLM lol.
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Krankenbruder
@krankenbruder.bsky.social
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US politics on Israel is fucked, has been for decades, and nobody who would unfuck it now would have ever been elected president. To properly calibrate expectations.
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Jamie
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It’s clear that they feel it’s a trivial excuse, when being outraged at genocide should be the absolute rock bottom of any decent sense of basic human morality. Lowest bar ever.
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Large Language Platypus
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Part of the issue, I think, with "yes but Gaza" is that there were similar complaints before last October. Mind you, a lot of that is that the administration has awful comms when it comes to promoting their wins (the ERA, the union stuff, the more aggressive FTC) so that's also kinda on them.
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@acinonnap.bsky.social
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Not only fucked it, but doubled down Don't Dem leaders realize that US Jews are not a monolith, and that many—especially the lefty kind—are horrified by Israel's actions in Gaza?
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Vinchenzo the Jackal
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It's not just the Palestine shebang either. He also fucked up by being a hugely fervent supporter of the KOSA bill. That and the genocides in Congo and elsewhere he is aiding. If young people didn't hate him over his fanatical support for Genocide in Palestine, its the other genocides, or the KOSA.
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lorem ipsum
@whiskeynachos.bsky.social
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I hate to be "no, it's the kids who are wrong," but deciding not to vote for Biden is idiocy given how much worse Trump would be. I can forgive that of Palestinians, I'd be seeing red if it was my people, I cannot forgive it of white leftists.
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drow zelensky
@dov.bsky.social
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Like I don't think it's somehow unfair for young lefties to go "ugh" when voting for someone who at core has no sympathy for a people that they have a lot of sympathy for. And him being actually pretty good on other left issues doesn't change that
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GPT-Ern Malley
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The thing is that he wasn't getting credit beforehand so I'm not sure that's really the meaningful change rather than Gaza giving them a language to agree to use to shout their discontent
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Gluten-free Seitan
@davidjorgonson.bsky.social
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It's not just Palestine. Biden delivered full employment and strong wage growth, at the cost of inflation. A bunch of supposed far leftist suddenly turned into Gold Standard anti inflation maximalists, previously considered a right wing ultra capitalist position
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crucialwax
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With Biden you can exert pressure and affect change. With Trump you will lose that option.
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NeoTiamat
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Hmm. Kinda? Or rather... I believe young people care about Palestine. But I do not believe anyone going 'Genocide Joe' is a good-faith actor, partially because so many were virulently opposed pre-Gaza, partially because Biden is legit better on I/P than Israel, Hamas, or Trump.
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@dillgarlicsalmon.bsky.social
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Everything I've seen has been: -Biden helped pass some good stuff BUT -Also helped do a lot of bad stuff + -Democrats have put a lot of effort into fighting the left + -These are good policies, we want as many of them as we can get, not a compromise. Why the f$ck aren't more people pushing for them?
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