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Michael Hobbes@michaelhobbes.bsky.social |
I think what makes this difficult to discuss with any kind of rigor is that Biden staying in is bad and Biden dropping out is also bad! There are no good options available so we’re all flailing to figure out which bad thing is gonna be like 15% better than the worse thing
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W. Ron Sweeney
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I don't really understand why people see Kamala taking over as a bad thing. Did she hurt Biden in 2020? Trump is incredibly unpopular and I can see any mainstream Democrat campaigning circles around him.
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Stephanie V.W. Lucianovic
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Had this exact discussion with my spouse today. Where we landed: July is just too damn late for any busted ticket to make traction for a November election. If Biden stays in and gets elected, then maybe he steps aside next year(ish) and Kamala takes over then.
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pophouse
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gotta say, one nice thing about being a regular person with just a primary vote and not a newspaper column is that i fully understand it is not my decision
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John Gorman
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All I'm saying though is *we* aren't going to "figure out" anything, and it feels like a lot of alarmist nonsense in the deadest part of the calendar. There is a Trump-branded Guns and Jails for All blood orgy happening in less than two weeks that will silence a lot of this if they can get that far.
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Harvey Fliester
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Feels like there is potential upside to him dropping out and basically none to him staying in.
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Horny Link
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do you not see polls
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Scott
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also, yes, there are literally only two possibilities: either Biden continues to seek reelection, or Harris becomes the nominee. No amount of wishcasting makes any other outcome remotely plausible.
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🥈72 dogs 🐝
@careycuprisin.bsky.social
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Yes, it's all bad. The good options were all rejected several years ago
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cloud 8
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i think the starting point is that you cannot run a sundowning octogenarian for a 4 year term for president. it’s absurd. imo that’s not even an option. from there, i dunno. whoever can most likely beat the orange fascist with newfound powers of immunity
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@ktmarketeer.bsky.social
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Biden dropping out is the only lever pundits think they can push since nobody expects the really disastrous candidate to take a dive for the good of the country!
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Mannie Bothans
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Unfortunately this became bad when Biden announced he was running again and the entire establishment said “he’s the nominee, get over it, and fall in line!” Now we’re stuck with which Hail Mary pass play to run. 🤷♂️
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McIrwin
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I’m not sure if it’s really that difficult of a decision. Maintaining course with Biden is basically a guaranteed loss. No incumbent has overcome a polling deficit like this in the modern era. Switching is probably a loss, but has the possibility (if remote) of a win.
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Lauren Persoff
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The best option is for Biden to step aside and to have an open convention. The DNC creates a process to yield 6 candidates with national support who do town halls etc for a month (positive campaigning only), then the delegates vote. Harris would be a strong favorite but not imposed.
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Zoot Soothsayer
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in this race, 15% ain't nothing!
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Travis Dawry
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15% could more than cover a win / loss difference, assuming any scenario contains a win.
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Christine
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This would truly be an fascinating time of historic importance to pick apart for if it wasn’t happening during our increasingly shitty lifetime
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jp
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please watch Chis Hayes' opening tonight
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ScholarlyCowboy
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It all sucks, even just keeping trump out of office feels like a finger in the dike.
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