Micah @rincewind.run

like I'm sorry these people are the ones who spend all their time talking about how the inviolable intent of the founders is the only thing that matters there aren't a lot of things that the founders agreed on but "fuck kings" was about as close a consensus position as you could find!

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JauntyWunderKind @jauntywk.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 26, 2024 at 02:05 UTC

Such a genuine simple honesty. This hypocrisy & tension could not be more pertinent to the nation. I hope we can acknowledge & acknowledge & acknowledge this, I hope we can keep seeing it again and again and again. This is the great lie. Well done, tyvm.

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Mark Shore @markshore.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:45 UTC

you'd think so, but

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HeckinHound🔞 @heckinhound.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 19:14 UTC

I’m PRETTY sure the separation of Church and State was another thing they agreed on but we still have Conservatives going on about how this is a “Christian nation” thus giving them an excuse to use religious doctrine as a basis for law.

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Svenska Doomfrämjandet @doomlobbyn.se [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:46 UTC

Scott Adams is pretty much the benchmark for a person you want to avoid agreeing with these days but back when he could occasionally be mistaken for insightfully funny he had Dogbert say “The office of the president was invented so that the people could believe they did not have a king.” (Roughly.)

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Michael Marquis Albright @chicagomstie.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:44 UTC

Didn't some of them want to name Washington king? They lost and that's good, but some of them were less "fuck kings" and more "fuck that one king in particular." Your point stands, though; the monarchists lost and that's enshrined in pretty much all the founders writings.

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Funranium (AKA Phil Broughton) @funranium.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:41 UTC

With a side order of "And fuck that king in particular."

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@flatline42.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 17:13 UTC

It's obvious that the whole "founder's intent" is basically just the political equivalent of an oracle divining the will of the gods- infallible and impossible to argue with. It's a bad faith equivalent to reading entrails or any other divination technique.

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Don Zeko @donzeko.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:41 UTC

Well but hang on, shouldn't we worry about these possible bad side effects of not having a king? So originalist!

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S knows that p @sknowsthatp.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 19:16 UTC

Founders’ intent ain’t got shit to do with it. This was a transaction, paid for by Harlan Crow and every other businessman who want the Trump tax cuts to be made permanent

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Peter H. Coffin @hellsop.ninehells.com [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:41 UTC

Even, if I remember my eighth-grade history correctly, contrary to and in the face of public acclamation for a king in the early 1780s.

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Seth D. Michaels @sethdmichaels.bsky.social [ View ] Apr 25, 2024 at 16:57 UTC

from Alexander fucking Hamilton himself: bsky.app/profile/seth...

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