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1970s author: this is hard sci-fi, so it stays only within the limits of what's scientifically proven as possible: slower-than-light travel, the impacts of weightlessness, and telepathic powers.

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waxmonkey's avatar waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social
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space 1999 like that "what, ESP is totally real, why are you making that face"

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Biohazard's avatar Biohazard @biohazardous.bsky.social
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That always bugged me about Star Trek. It's established cannon, but mind melds and telepathy never seemed to sit well with me for fitting into the setting.

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Mooch's avatar Mooch @cachiporra.bsky.social
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paging Mrs. Suzanne Pleshette to the OminousPsiCorp reception desk!

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Corrigan Nagy's avatar Corrigan Nagy @corrigannagy.bsky.social
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and magnetic monopoles mined in the asteroid belt

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Corrigan Nagy's avatar Corrigan Nagy @corrigannagy.bsky.social
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it was an easy shorthand for making characters that were clearly no longer human beings, even if the the people in the story on both sides hadn't realized it yet. as soon as frank poole got his wildly enhanced telepathic powers, he was no longer human. psi corps was ok with killing all the mundanes.

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DDOwen 's avatar DDOwen @llyfrgellbabel.bsky.social
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Poul Anderson, who was certainly guilty of the above, had my favourite definition, something like: "science fiction based on the most implausible premise: that current scientific theories are correct". (I wonder if you could set up a version of Hempel's dilemma for definitions of hard sf...)

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Michael Tae Sweeney's avatar Michael Tae Sweeney @mtsw.bsky.social
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I've said this about STAR WARS a lot: a huge change in the context of how audiences respond to it is that audiences in the 1970s understood "The Force" to be something that plausibly existed in our own universe rather than a type of fictional magic.

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Joel Kreissman's avatar Joel Kreissman @zarpaulus.bsky.social
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The only works I can think of that meet all those qualifications are some Heinlein stories, which almost always introduce FTL in later stories of the same setting.

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Stoffels Full Continental Brainworm Buffet 's avatar Stoffels Full Continental Brainworm Buffet @stoffeloni.bsky.social
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if it was fake, would THE US MILITARY run decades long research into it? huh? Yeah didn't think so.

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BeijingPalmer's avatar BeijingPalmer @beijingpalmer.bsky.social
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An interesting question is how the soft consensus on the reality of psychic powers fell apart in the 1980s. I honestly think James Randi played a role

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chbarts's avatar chbarts @chbarts.bsky.social
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John W Campbell had a lot of influence on SF, not all of it good.

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Carlos Yu's avatar Carlos Yu @carloshasanax.bsky.social
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and the selective breeding of the human race.

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LoneWolf's avatar LoneWolf @lonelylupine.bsky.social
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It's wild how much telepathy there was in fiction towards the end of the 20th century.

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Alas I Am But Bones (aka EvilViergacht)'s avatar Alas I Am But Bones (aka EvilViergacht) @viergacht.bsky.social
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XD so true

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Screaming Turnip's avatar Screaming Turnip @screamingturnip.bsky.social
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Back in the day when ftl wasn't a given but like glad to see it was always an absurd line in the samd

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Omfg a real life relative of mine unironically said on the way back from Dune that it was interesting and about real science unlike Star Wars which was about how "lIgHtSaBeRs aRe cOoL!!!", hard sci-fi is when space cocaine gives you superpowers apparently

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Gluten-free Seitan's avatar Gluten-free Seitan @davidjorgonson.bsky.social
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Bussard ramjets Star system sized megastructures

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We had Diana Troy on TNG in the 90's as well as Psi Corps in Babylon 5!

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Twopaw (Jospeh Kirlian/Trainee Frostbite/Mafdet Enneada)'s avatar Twopaw (Jospeh Kirlian/Trainee Frostbite/Mafdet Enneada) @twopaw.bsky.social
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> Philip Kindred Dick has entered the chat. {STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER, MOTHERFUCKER!] I mean, Phil ain't wrong. And if he's wrong, I don't want to be right when I write.

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Lord Businessman II 's avatar Lord Businessman II @lordbusinessman.bsky.social
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"New Humans" in Star Trek are wild as hell

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CM Impembo's avatar CM Impembo @impemboganecue.bsky.social
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The MKUltra days were a little different, ok

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Secrecy Envelope's avatar Secrecy Envelope @bigstape.bsky.social
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You can just name Larry Niven, you know.

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Mystic Appreciator's avatar Mystic Appreciator @urruenjoyer.bsky.social
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Turing brings up ESP in Computing Machinery and Intelligence

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finn's avatar finn @kfinn.bsky.social
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H. Beam Piper believed in reincarnation and wrote a very didactic short sci-fi story where he explained why reincarnation undermines the case for economic redistribution (because it allows anyone to be born to wealth and privilege if they so choose).

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George's avatar George @geofisher.bsky.social
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lol - this just put words to something I’ve always noticed but hadn’t ever really thought about!

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Julia S.'s avatar Julia S. @booktweeting.bsky.social
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now that we are on our generation spaceship to another galaxy, let me bring out this film projector and show you a little movie about eugenics the space stewardesses will bring you space coffee, gentlemen

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Orgone energy is an established fact!

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Dr. M.A. Davis's avatar Dr. M.A. Davis @mikedavis.bsky.social
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have you ever read the RPG DAMNATION DECADE? It has the conceit that all 70s sci-fi/fantasy ideas are accurate, so you have things like a secret Atlantean cult with psychic powers mixed with Patty Hearst being kidnapped by the Stepford Wives but still becoming a violent bank robber/insurrectionist.

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Charles EP Murphy's avatar Charles EP Murphy @cepmurphy.bsky.social
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IIRC from James Nicoll reviews, telepathy is codified as a sci-fi thing because Campbell believed in it and would pay money if you put it in a story, and since he was half the regular market you bloody put it in a story. If he'd believed in astrology instead, Star Trek's wildly different!

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