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I honestly think that the fact that Biden improved throughout the first debate & is still doing well makes me think that something about Democratic debate prep is plain busted. The same thing happened for Al Gore at his first debate. The same thing happened for Barack Obama's first debate in 2012.

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Gore won his debate until the pundits couldn’t stop talking about his sighs at Bush BS. The press hated wonky Gore and melted over Dubya’s cute nicknames for them (Candy Crowley, anyone?). It’s when I realized substance didn’t matter in debates and Beltway pundits suck. It hasn’t changed.

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Coffee Porter Jr.'s avatar Coffee Porter Jr. @unlox.bsky.social
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I’m talking myself into this being deliberate. Obama won, Gore damn near won, maybe rope-a-doping Republicans pays off in the long run and the people who are impressed by policy talk are sated in the first debate

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GigaChad Pennington's avatar GigaChad Pennington @dcdcdc.bsky.social
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That's a reach. No one working Al Gore's debate prep had an effect this time. This is like when networks say "well, the Browns are 1-8 since 1965 against the Cowboys in Dallas, so it's an uphill battle for them" who care what happened in 2000, it's 2024: replace the candidate.

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Steph Sleeper 's avatar Steph Sleeper @drsleeps.bsky.social
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The daily show did a “prepared vs winging it bit” last week Everyone knows winging it somewhat charismatically wins every time

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SteveLibrarian's avatar SteveLibrarian @librariansteve.bsky.social
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They prep as if their opponent will make & argue claims in good faith, and not just create a blizzard of lies.

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Renee (paix120)'s avatar Renee (paix120) @paix120.bsky.social
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No one prepping him should've been expecting Biden to recite any numbers or detailed facts tonight. When he ditched the gaffe-y detail flubs and made his responses about how terrible Trump would be for the country and how great of a country the US is, he got better.

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chatham harrison is tending a new garden's avatar chatham harrison is tending a new garden @chathamharrison.bsky.social
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They coach the shit out of the Democrat, the candidate comes in tired & tight, & the Republican wins through shamelessness

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Daniel Brody 's avatar Daniel Brody @danielwbrody.bsky.social
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People freaked out a lot after that first Obama debate in 2012 too

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Fnord Borgly's avatar Fnord Borgly @borgly.bsky.social
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Daily Beast said Biden has a cold.

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Runnerdad's avatar Runnerdad @frankfield.bsky.social
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I’m not sure it’s Dem debate prep as much as it’s hard to do the job AND take time for debate prep. I would think that has an impact on your examples.

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Chris in NY's avatar Chris in NY @chrisb2.bsky.social
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incumbent Presidents tend to lose their first debate because their challenger usually has had a grueling primary debate schedule

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Chris in NY's avatar Chris in NY @chrisb2.bsky.social
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.......what

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Robert Szasz 𓅆's avatar Robert Szasz 𓅆 @rszasz.bsky.social
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It's what happens to every incumbent?

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