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The First Amendment analysis of whether newspapers should be able to print identifiable details of potential jurors and put them in danger may be complicated. The moral, ethical, and social analysis of whether newspapers SHOULD is not complicated.

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Plansix's avatar Plansix @plansix.bsky.social
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And the courts should have guidelines or best practices to protect the anonymity of jurors in high profile trials. None of this is new or surprising. It is disheartening that the court seems caught off guard by all the attention on the jurors.

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Raoul Meyer's avatar Raoul Meyer @mistermeyer.bsky.social
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TL;DR for capitalism "just because you CAN do a thing doesn't mean you SHOULD do it."

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Phasmatic's avatar Phasmatic @phasmatic.bsky.social
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This seems like an instance where the correct course of action is the same as when you receive a friendly invitation to speak to the FBI.

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THANK YOU! Even if you say "this potential juror owns a head shop on the Upper West side," and someone blows up the wrong head shop, you still got someone killed! Does it matter that it was the wrong person?

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The Rocky Horror Picture Shōgun's avatar The Rocky Horror Picture Shōgun @mgobl.eu
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My knee-jerk is to oppose nerfing the First Amendment just because this is an awkward era for journalism ethics. But I admit my main reservation about it is I always assume limitations on a free press will invariably equate with limitations on individuals. Are those fears reasonable, tho'?

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Matt Jennings 's avatar Matt Jennings @ghostofjennings.bsky.social
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I work in a small town newspaper and we would never run the details of a jury in any case. It's just not ethical

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Popehat's avatar Popehat @kenwhite.bsky.social
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But no doubt David Nakamura can explain the news value of knowing the name of the specific bookstore where a particular potential juror works. I’m sure some of Trump’s most fervent followers are interested in it.

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Chair of the Sewer Maintenance Board's avatar Chair of the Sewer Maintenance Board @sidewalkslam.bsky.social
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Is there something else the judge could have done? I imagine this is an issue in other cases, like mob ones. Is there some way to put this process under seal or something? Not sure how that weighs against the obvious public good of trials being open.

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Blinded with Science 🏳️‍🌈🔬's avatar Blinded with Science 🏳️‍🌈🔬 @nerdy70.bsky.social
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Seriously! If DJT is convinced, these jurors lives will be in actual danger from DJT's goons. It needs to be a complete lockdown on their identities!

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Mitch Solomon's avatar Mitch Solomon @mitchsolomon.bsky.social
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Super cool that the paper of record is just a bunch of dumbasses

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McClain's avatar McClain @mcclain142.bsky.social
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The bar for journalism ethics has to be higher that "is it legal."

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Seentoomuch's avatar Seentoomuch @seentoomuch.bsky.social
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"Don't put identifying information about jurors in a trial where the defendant is also going to a different trial for whipping up a mob attack on his enemies," doesn't seem like a hard moral judgement to make.

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's avatar @zendarva.bsky.social
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A lot of the issues of the last 6 years seem to center around the should/can divide.

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Scott Stein's avatar Scott Stein @sstein.bsky.social
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Newspaper: Potential juror number nine has a severe peanut allergy. They live at 47 Pine Street. The front door is solid, but if you jiggle the back door, it opens right up.

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Magdalena Donea | 🇷🇴 🇬🇷 🏳️‍🌈 ♿️'s avatar Magdalena Donea | 🇷🇴 🇬🇷 🏳️‍🌈 ♿️ @maggy.kia.net
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"Should be able to" vs "should" is always the argument, and I wish more people understood and were willing to work with that in service to specific circumstances, instead of leaning back on law and abstraction.

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Too tired to be witty Wayne 's avatar Too tired to be witty Wayne @its-just-wayne.bsky.social
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It reminds me of a quote my media ethics professor said in class one day: "You have the right to do it, but it's the wrong thing to do."

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Ed Cook's avatar Ed Cook @naggy.bsky.social
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I'm sure at least one techbro's solution is to use AI jurors.

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's avatar @nclud.bsky.social
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It's hard not to imagine they want to make themselves future stories reporting on the attacks against said jurors

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RickinBaltimore's avatar RickinBaltimore @rickinbaltimore.bsky.social
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To paraphrase Dr. Ian Malcolm, just because you could doesn't mean you should.

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Wendell Albright's avatar Wendell Albright @wendella.bsky.social
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This strikes me as being in the came category of yelling "fire" in a theater. There is clear identifiable potential harm to a small group of people, and it's reasonable to protect them from the potential harm with a circumscribed limit on speech.

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Riley Casey's avatar Riley Casey @erileykc.bsky.social
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Didn't we cover this in the bomb making instructions episode?

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komrade@bsky ~ %'s avatar komrade@bsky ~ % @komrade.systems
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I was under the impression that juror identities can be confidential in the interests of justice, determined by the court, without it running in to First Amendment problems. Even being kept completely secret as an innominate jury depending on the defendant. Like organized crime etc

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Cranky David's avatar Cranky David @cranky-david.bsky.social
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John Doyle's avatar John Doyle @jdoyleoss.bsky.social
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Why not have peremptory challenges for the press? Maybe a juror is just too boring to grab the readers attention.

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liberalvixen's avatar liberalvixen @liberalvixen.bsky.social
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We need to treat this like we treat streakers at sporting events. Just make a decision not to show them or talk about them and move on to something else.

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Chad Farrenburg's avatar Chad Farrenburg @chadfarrenburg.bsky.social
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Now that they’ve seen it could wreck the whole trial, I wonder if some right wing news organization will do it purposefully now.

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Eileen Popp.'s avatar Eileen Popp. @epopp.bsky.social
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Bravo ...thanks!!!

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Benderdict Cumbenderbatch's avatar Benderdict Cumbenderbatch @benderdict.bsky.social
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I'm sure that "America's preeminent First Amendment Supporter ®️" would never condone the sharing of "assassinati0n c0oordinates" of jurors on his social media platform, RIGHT?

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Julia S.'s avatar Julia S. @booktweeting.bsky.social
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Ken, my recollection of past organized crime trials is that there are some court procedures that can address this balance—relying mainly on written questionnaires being one of them. Why do you think the court might not be implementing these here?

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Nothings Monstered's avatar Nothings Monstered @nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social
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It seems like the case for a broad gag order for the duration of the trial would be strong.

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