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Peter

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the implied premise here is that the decline in Biden’s polling numbers is being driven by the media coverage rather than the debate itself. but several awful polls came in the days immediately following the debate. the debate itself was the problem

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ildon's avatar ildon @ildon.bsky.social
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The only polls I saw either didn't change or only dropped within the margin of error. It's far enough away from election day that it's barely different from random noise. Obama saw a bigger drop after his first debate in 2012. Where was the party calling for him to drop out then?

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Randal Cooper's avatar Randal Cooper @fancycwabs.bsky.social
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Not sure the unrelenting discourse is helping. Unless you mean helping to sell clicks.

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HELLGORITHM's avatar HELLGORITHM @hellgorithm.bsky.social
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My MSNBC mom texted me the night of the debate, in real time and well before any media color, in basically a panic

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's avatar @domspar.bsky.social
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Thank you. It was HIS fucking performance. I agree most of the pundits are shitheads who called us all ageist POS 6 months ago, but Biden ultimately fucked his. They buck stops there.

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Thomas Huling 's avatar Thomas Huling @attyhuling.bsky.social
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I stand by what I said the night of: I would vote for Biden over Trump even if his staff were doing a Weekend at Bernie’s with him. The debate made me think they’re inclined to test that

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29 Sunset's avatar 29 Sunset @29sunset.com
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But that's really hard to disentangle from the center left elite media collectively freaking out and calling for Biden's withdrawal immediately after the debate.

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Dogs and Sobriety's avatar Dogs and Sobriety @dogsandsobriety.bsky.social
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Except that it is definitely the ongoing media coverage. Without a doubt.

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johannbratwurst's avatar johannbratwurst @johannbratwurst.bsky.social
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not surprising I guess but none of this discourse takes into account his funding of two wars, one of which is an active genocide what foreign policy?

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Aaron Huertas's avatar Aaron Huertas @aaronhuertas.bsky.social
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Never had a chance to divorce debate effects from renewed and fresh calls among Dems for him to step down save one reaction poll. IMO the calls are the root cause of the frenzy. Massive lack of message discipline trying to relitigate the nomination via the press.

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Hank Hoffman's avatar Hank Hoffman @hankhoffmanct.bsky.social
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All my friends have the same story—freaking out within the first 15 minutes or so. No media narrative needed to reach our own conclusions. A text convo a friend started with me. See the time stamp:

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LMN is OP's avatar LMN is OP @lmnisop.bsky.social
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He was already trailing and the debate was an opportunity to assuage some concerns. Instead it just reinforced them

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But the media coverage also immediately followed the debate. Not sure which is the bigger driver, but I know I personally didn’t start freaking out until I saw NYT calling for Biden to drop out

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Phizle's avatar Phizle @phizle.bsky.social
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He has not really declined since the debate, it's some small movements both ways and a lot of bed wetting

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