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Matt Novak

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Snopes is such horseshit. The claim that Trump was only talking about people at the Confederate statue protest when he referred to "very fine people" ignores that it was exclusively white supremacists at the statue protest.

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As I read it they say DJT said there were some bad Nazis but there were some good Nazis. How it makes the claim False IDK.

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Rebecca Schoenkopf's avatar Rebecca Schoenkopf @wonkette.bsky.social
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nobody show Brooke, she'll stroke out.

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Cate 🐬's avatar Cate 🐬 @catebridget.bsky.social
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splitting hairs on a skinhead

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QuiJohn's avatar QuiJohn @quijohn.bsky.social
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They just took the mealy mouthed plausible deniability that modern white supremacists *always* use and acted like it was in good faith

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Tim Onion's avatar Tim Onion @bencollins.bsky.social
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What the fuck is this shit? I was alive at the time.

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Afton Nelson's avatar Afton Nelson @aftonnelson.bsky.social
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We all saw it. We all heard it.

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Beddy's avatar Beddy @lancecalhoon.bsky.social
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wow, took 'em 7 years to come up with that, huh.

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Buddha Ferret's avatar Buddha Ferret @buddhaferret.bsky.social
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He literally SAID that. I saw it. Funny enough, on both CNN and (later in the night) FOX News. What happened to Snopes? They were on point for a long time, now they're just garbage like everything else.

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Uribe Down's avatar Uribe Down @saveourfarms.bsky.social
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He literally didn’t call Nazis very fine people, he just said that Nazis were moved to do their own thing by these pesky others that are always harming society, it’s you that’s up in arms by not understanding the specifics of these threats, you stupid fucking idiot

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Strepsirrhini 's avatar Strepsirrhini @strepsirrhini.bsky.social
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Snopes has been off the rails since they fucked over @brooklynmarie.bsky.social

Nothing they say is reliable oe useful now, they're a captured propaganda machine.

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italianstylemeats's avatar italianstylemeats @blagueplague.bsky.social
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bring back The Straight Dope

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Rooker's avatar Rooker @rooker.bsky.social
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Snopes jumped the shark when they decided to branch out from urban legends to commenting on every little thing in the news

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michael spins's avatar michael spins @michaelspins.bsky.social
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Might as well just be a branch of the nytimes, their mission seems to be normalizing Trump

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Susieus Maximus's avatar Susieus Maximus @susieusmaximus.bsky.social
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They're doing the thing mainstream media does as well, where they're hoping that if they bend over backwards to be "fair" to Trump and his ilk, they'll gain credibility with them, which is just fucking silly at this point. Fact checks only matter to people who care about facts. That ship has sailed.

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Adam Serwer's avatar Adam Serwer @adamserwer.bsky.social
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What’s going on here?

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En Buen Ora's avatar En Buen Ora @enbuenora.bsky.social
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The transcript they print in no way clears Trump of the accusations they claim it clears him of!

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Kitchen-Fresh Pigeon's avatar Kitchen-Fresh Pigeon @jimbo849.bsky.social
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The fact that Snopes even bothers to take what Trump says at face-value really shows just how fucking stupid they are in their attempts to be neutral.

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Bill Geerhart's avatar Bill Geerhart @conelrad6401240.bsky.social
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Lol.

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Bill Geerhart's avatar Bill Geerhart @conelrad6401240.bsky.social
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The writer should try out for the Babylon Bee.

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Bill Geerhart's avatar Bill Geerhart @conelrad6401240.bsky.social
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"We found the original clip on C-SPAN, and transcribed the relevant section..." lol.

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Fuzzy Mike's avatar Fuzzy Mike @fuzzymike.bsky.social
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the fucking “Cotton pointed to peaceful protests and said they should be shot but later he said he only meant violent protesters, neener neener” shit again

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Dr. Wombat 's avatar Dr. Wombat @aspyre.bsky.social
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www.fastcompany.com/90901113/ins...

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FeistyEnglishTeacher's avatar FeistyEnglishTeacher @flower-power.bsky.social
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Raise your hands if you heard him. Thought so.

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scotian's avatar scotian @scotian.bsky.social
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this is a Scott Adams hobbyhorse, isn't it? something he constantly rants about. and Snopes has staked out the same side of that argument as Scott Adams. ok then!

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Young Isaac Reign's avatar Young Isaac Reign @isaacreign10.bsky.social
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The people marching to the statues on the Friday night before the full blown violence on Saturday is where the “Jews will not replace us” footage is from. This fact check is saying the people chanting that were not neo nazis and white supremacist

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Dan Davis's avatar Dan Davis @bindlestaff.bsky.social
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“…he also condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists outright and said he was specifically referring to those who were there only to participate in the statue protest.” …all of whom on the pro-statue side were either white nationalists or neo-Nazis.

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Q. H. Stone's avatar Q. H. Stone @qhstone.bsky.social
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He was talking about these white supremacists. He said there were many fine people among them.

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Pyrholidon Enthusiast ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 's avatar Pyrholidon Enthusiast ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) @pyrholidon.bsky.social
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//We looked into these claims, and found that while Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," meaning both the protesters and the counterprotesters// Oh so snopes is just deciding what people meant? That's not fact checking, that's opinion.

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Patrick Fessenbecker's avatar Patrick Fessenbecker @pfessenbecker.bsky.social
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It's very much a secondary part of the story but I'd kinda like a followup on what was going on here.

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For this fact check to be true, there would have to be three "sides", not two. *Trump* said there were two sides, and both of the sides had very fine people. That statement *necessarily* includes neo-nazis and white supremacist. Infuriating.

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No Billionaires 's avatar No Billionaires @zil.bsky.social
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Search “What happened to Snopes” and your find many articles on the drama and the downfall.

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sen's avatar sen @sendai.bsky.social
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Oof, that’s disappointing. I haven’t caught up with what happened to them after their ownership scuffle a good while back.

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Matt Novak's avatar Matt Novak @paleofuture.bsky.social
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If you take Trump at his word that he wasn't referring to the Nazis and white supremacists when he was saying "very fine people," you have to imagine there were people in this group who weren't white supremacists.

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Jennifer Van Goethem's avatar Jennifer Van Goethem @jennvg.bsky.social
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Didn’t @katzonearth.bsky.social do a whole debunk of this bullshit at the time?

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AxeLegend, Fio Abs Truther's avatar AxeLegend, Fio Abs Truther @axelegend.bsky.social
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Snopes used to be so good what happened.

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reality check 🤔🤷‍♂️'s avatar reality check 🤔🤷‍♂️ @realitycheck.bsky.social
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Trump: "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people ... other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists" So he's confused or outright lying about the makeup of the protest. Still, useful context from Snopes.

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Chris Wilhelm's avatar Chris Wilhelm @cwilhelm24.bsky.social
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Biden said the very fine people incident was when he decided to run against Orange Very Fine Person. So I'm guessing there's going to be another round of "Therefore Biden should step aside" nonsense. 🙄

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