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Dave Weigel@daveweigel.bsky.social |
In the world where Biden bowed out in June 2023, and VP Harris won a contested primary, how's the party doing rn? Better? Worse? I tend to think better. Rs still running against the admin but the principal is able to do lots of public events/interviews and defend the record/attack Trump.
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Jason Parton
@jasongrvin.bsky.social
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They'd dust off all the Hilary stuff and rebrand it for Harris. I don't think it would go well.
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Zane Alexander
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She has the chops of an attorney general to go after Trump in a much more prosecutorial way. Trump will refuse to face her in the 2nd debate. On the other hand she is not more popular than Biden, and all the attacks will switch from age to race/sex.
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Policy_g
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Much better because Buttigieg is already in the VP slot and the two of them are just running circles around Trump on every media platform that will give them 45 seconds of time. Every dark whisper campaign that she's black and he's gay just reinforces that he's a product of the old days.
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Tiny Brontosaurus
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sacrificing the incumbent advantage is insane, sorry. low-info voters would have no idea what happened, Kamala can't credibly claim Biden's many policy wins, and the left would instantly remember everything they attacked her for in 19 while the NYT screams Dems in Disarray like they didn't start it
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@transitionstate.bsky.social
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Substantially better because his incompetent, hermetically sealed political team is not running the campaign.
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Patrick John Gillam
@patrickgillam.bsky.social
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In my retconned history, Democratic Senators convicted the House-impeached Bill Clinton and President Gore won his 2000 election on the strength of being the incumbent. I would not object to a similar scenario this year.
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Sean
@swblather.bsky.social
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Do you think being VP would make the contested 2023 primary different than her very poor contested 2020 primary showing?
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Carpinche
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One thing we would see is that the right would lean hard into calling Kamala a "DEI hire". Ride that wave of resentment and paint her as unqualified. I imagine that would be one of the defining framings around the race. No idea if it that would hurt or help her though.
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@marchforsanity.bsky.social
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It's a waste of time and energy to do what ifs?? It didn't happen.
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AnneRoe
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Stacey Abrams couldn't beat Kemp in Georgia partly because of some voters' misogyny and others' racism. Biden for President, Harris for VP. He can lean on her when needed and step down when it gets to be too much, knowing he's leaving the country in capable hands.
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The Piper at the Gates of Jawn
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imagine the world where we had a 50-something woman leading the party message on abortion instead of an 80 year old catholic guy
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Lee Fink
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I have serious doubts about Harris winning a contested primary.
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Rick Neal
@rickneal.bsky.social
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She’d face an onslaught of racism and misogyny, and while that might energize some, it would also be exhausting and demoralizing to see how many would go along with it. And I’d imagine there’d be Dem/pundit voices second-guessing Bidens decision, etc
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Dave Weigel
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One factoid about the LBJ precedent - his approval rating surged after he bailed out of the 1968 race. Dipped again over the chaotic summer but we'll never know what the dynamic would have been if Biden was going out as a one-term elder statesman.
www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/d...
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Chris in NY
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I wonder a LOT about the world where the Red Wave happened in the midterms
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Chris in NY
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back in 2020 this was my dream scenario. Biden saying "I'm here to finish the work I started" while Harris made the forceful case for his record and her ability to continue it
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Parker
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though I would still have voted Warren in 20, Harris would have done better with someone who wasn't her sister running her campaign
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David W Thompson
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I honestly don't know how it would play out, but I keep feeling young-energy looming, and Kamala right in the center of it.
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Inception
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This is only true if you ignore the racism and the misogyny. It would be really helpful if the media would stop ignoring both.
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Alex Morash
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The funny thing is, after all this drama, Kamala looks amazing by comparison. Considering she’s also under 78, she’s going to look like a youthful breath of fresh air.
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Eoin Higgins
@eoinhiggins.bsky.social
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Def better. First of all, she can reasonably tie the first half of a sentence to the second half.
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Nicholas Bauer PhD
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100%
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a
@aacoek.bsky.social
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So Earth 2.0 where we imagine TopCop is viable and likable?
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@desertjason.bsky.social
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It's weird, but my conspiracy theory even after 2020 had been that Biden stepped aside after a midterm election (either 2022 or 2026) to give Harris the possibility of 2 full terms in her own right.
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