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Michael Hobbes@michaelhobbes.bsky.social |
I actually think people are getting a bit over their skis on freaking out over Biden! We're talking about one terrible debate performance, something that can be turned around with a few good TV appearances. And bowing out could hurt Dem polling more than it helps.
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Noah
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The Friday after the debate, I would’ve agreed with you. What concerns me is that we haven’t *had* those TV appearances yet. A competent campaign would’ve had two live interviews scheduled over the weekend, and done a town hall this week, and another interview Friday
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Daniel Weinman
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one bad debate that confirms in people’s minds the longest running criticism of his ability to be president. This isn’t the same as Obama struggling in one debate to Romney.
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Darth Teyder 🦈 JE. SUIS. BAT-MAN.
@diefledertey.bsky.social
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I guess what I'm grappling with is, yes, the debate went poorly and everyone online who is well informed has an opinion. Meanwhile, no one I know actually watched it, they're low information voters, and their attention spans are about two seconds long. I know my personal experience is not reflective
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🌏🐶🦕🥳 Vegetable Gremlin ⍼👻🥦💥🏠♫
@vegetablegremlin.bsky.social
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this "one terrible debate performance" was the realization of concerns that had been around for years over something which typically does not get better with time
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Scott Brown
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I'd feel better if Biden's ABC interview was longer than 15 minutes, and he was doing more than just Stephanopoulous and GMA. He's seemed better at other events he's done since the debate and in the immunity comments, but the debate was real, real bad and he's been slow to contact elected Dems.
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The Book of the Void
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This is not true. Biden set it up as a televised shootout, even borrowing Clint Eastwood lines. Really poor tactical decision.
And it wasn't just bad debating, it was completely losing track of what he was talking about *5 minutes in*.
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@rodneyleggett.bsky.social
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Have you seen the post-debate polling yet? It's been bad for Biden and his potential replacements are polling better. puck.news/biden-plunge...
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Cynbel Terreus
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Literally THE FOLLOWING MORNING he had a great TV appearance at a rally in NC. He clearly had a mild cough, so like IDK the man was likely ran down and sick the previous night.
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Chet Sandberg
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That wasn’t just one debate performance no matter how many times people say that. “We beat Medicare” AFTER a confused, rambling, stumbling, and barely audible word journey isn’t just “a bad debate.”
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ship of fools
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JFC, the pearl clutching!!! Have they not spent an iota of time watching Biden’s many policy successes over the last 3.5 yrs?
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A Pile of Skulls
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I do think many issues with Biden are far more nuanced than just one bad debate performance, it's just the most recent thing to point to. That said, I've seen too many people who know too much about this say it's the wrong move to pull him out now.
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BuffnTuff
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I don’t disagree with you but a few good tv performances should already be happening and they haven’t and it’s pretty much too late for that. Something’s clearly wrong in their camp.
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Marcus Vitchell
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Still not sure how the reality show carny barker doesn't spin dropping out into "I already beat their best guy(tm), I'll send home anyone they put in my way etc etc etc"
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LeDonne Essential
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We’ve all lost our fucking minds.
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@closetpan.bsky.social
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What if he is well past senile like reports are suggesting. With him not taking questions after the Supreme court statement it implies he can barely hold it together.
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VoteBlue4ever
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Most people who watched it didn't notice that Biden didn't score well. That's the thing that was reported on immediately afterward but has since been buried.
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@thurlowweed.bsky.social
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Literally going to elect trump. Thought you were supposed to be one of the smarter guys, guess the hillary episode really showed your ass on all that, eh?
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Ken Raining
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The New York Times spent months priming people for this freakout, and now are pushing the narrative that they themselves created, all because they are mad he's not giving them the access they feel they deserve. And people are buying right into it.
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Mannie Bothans
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This is assuming that it was, in fact, just one bad debate performance and not what everyone thinks it is, serious cognitive decline. If Biden were to be replaced now, there's still plenty of time to recover, if he goes into the debate in September and be the same or worse than it's over
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@ilmariwalker.bsky.social
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I can’t see him taking a turn for the better cognitively. and hinestly he wasn’t really sharp for a good while. also it makes it so that Democrats can’t talk about hiw they have the more qualified candidates and care about skills and results.
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Lauren Persoff
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Come on, man. That was not “one terrible debate performance”. And it has not been followed by a good TV interview or really any public appearances at all apart from one short teleprompted speech. And the debate was set up by Biden to reassure on the age question and refocus the election as a choice!
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Mike Cozens
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That's a lot of baseless self-serving assumptions asserted as fact you got there.
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@wtm.bsky.social
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I think the problem is that if the DNC ever decides to remove Biden, it's best to do it asap. And I'm concerned that his performances aren't going to improve, and betting on the fact that they will is irresponsible
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Eoin Higgins
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We’re talking about five years of worsening decline that everyone can see.
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David Bikman
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This was a tipping point, a time when the entire system has to quickly reorient around a threshold-crossing event. Politics is nonlinear.
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@socraticme.bsky.social
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This is where I definitely disagree with you. Biden has been a problem for a while and that was starting to spread into the northeast. The problem isn’t (just) that the debate performance was really bad; it’s that it was MEANT to be reassuring and instead made things worse.
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Lawrence Hall
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Anyone who watched the whole thing…how terrible was it on a 1 (least terrible) to 10? I didn’t watch. Heard it started like a 10 but got better
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coop, quite tired. (any/they)
@coopquitetired.bsky.social
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all he has to do is one unscripted press conference but the white house has already said they wont do that. i wonder why.
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OG_McDuck
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Giving up the incumbent advantage because a bunch of disingenuous and/or nihilistic journos have condemned Biden like he's an old building seems the dumbest thing imaginable. Biden wasn't my choice in the 2020 primaries, but he's the president now, and just being the president is a big advantage.
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Jake Albrecht
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There's a lot people who said he was going to lose in 2020 because he was too old that are frothing at the mouth to be vindicated now. They're not going to give it up.
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ScholarlyCowboy
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Outside of letting Kamala take the reins, I don’t see an option beside keeping Biden in. Running a cut rate primary right now would be a disaster. And I’m saying this as someone who reeeeaaaally doesn’t want to vote for Biden but probably will because *gestures at everything*.
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Patrick Luck
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Well, then it's worrying that it's been a week, and he hasn't had even one.
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MaggieKat
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If they were going to do this - it should have been a year ago at the least, probably before 2016 when our options became set in stone with Hilary Clinton After telling progressives back then that sudden change was unreasonable, *now* they want to upset the entire table?!
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107 Reasons Why
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And if things don't change by the end of July, what happens then? Steady as she goes?
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