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Peter

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in 2020 “Biden is too old” was a big narrative going into the first debate with Trump, but he performed well and shut the concerns down. Ever since then, concerns about his age have had a boy who cried wolf element to them, and i think that’s part of why so many people were caught off guard.

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This is EXACTLY my journey. Every previous time people said he was gonna look old and doddering he was good, better than that even. I assumed it was gonna be exactly the same, but it wasn't just bad, it was worse than my lowest expectations. it felt like a knife I didn't see it coming.

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Luke 's avatar Luke @reallukemahler.bsky.social
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I also think that elite dismissal of those concerns has been helpful for him in remaining viable. Now that the elites are in step with the public on this issue, hard to see how he recovers.

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We Are Standing Still's avatar We Are Standing Still @nothingfromnada.bsky.social
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I am sorry, y’all see what you want to see. If you have not been evaluating Biden by the rubric that only his good performances count, he’s been in very troubling condition for a long time now.

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DaveAnthony's avatar DaveAnthony @daveanthony.bsky.social
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No, it's because they weren't paying attention. The rest of us have been watching the videos of a doddering old man for years. Anyone who thought Biden find up until the debate has to seriously look at their media consumption.

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Kansas Blueblood's avatar Kansas Blueblood @kansasblueblood.bsky.social
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Anyone who turns 40 can tell you how quickly things can change. No surprise there's another decline at 80

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Andyb's avatar Andyb @brusoa.bsky.social
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George Carlin had a bit about how people looking in the mirror at themselves don't say "I'm getting old" but instead say "I'm getting oldER." I think his insight was that most people fear being "old" as something like an on/off switch, almost identical to how we fear being dead.

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Bouba O'Kiki's avatar Bouba O'Kiki @bleary.bsky.social
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What could have happened in the last four years to affect his age?

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Seentoomuch's avatar Seentoomuch @seentoomuch.bsky.social
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The age thing is a product of many of our media's flaws. Because they mistake "neutrality" for "objectivity" thry can talk about the age thing in a way they can't talk about Trump saying he'd put his enemies in military show trials. Objectively reporting on that wouldn't be staying neutral.

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pixelatedboat aka “mr bluesky”'s avatar pixelatedboat aka “mr bluesky” @pixelatedboat.bsky.social
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we’ll be fine as long as he doesn’t get any older *4 years later* oh no

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En Buen Ora's avatar En Buen Ora @enbuenora.bsky.social
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if I remember correctly the concern was over Bernie's age & health

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People I know understand we all have times we are not at our best, esp when we have a virus.

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Diskonto's avatar Diskonto @diskonto.bsky.social
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I really hate liberals for forcing this on to us.

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Lane's avatar Lane @heylookatlane.bsky.social
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There's also the fact that the guy he's been running against and compared to for years is barely any younger than he is. The simple fact of his age by itself didn't seem to mean much in that context.

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Steve Watts's avatar Steve Watts @sporkyreeve.bsky.social
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Yeah, and there's been a lot of bad faith right-wing attacks with out-of-context clips, cheapfakes, etc.

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Noamar Garciachomsky 's avatar Noamar Garciachomsky @kduffchicago.bsky.social
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The Presidency ages people. There's a difference between guy who can finish last six months in office with help and guy who can last four more years.

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Menno's avatar Menno @menno.bsky.social
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Right, he's been incredibly strong at multiple outings before the debate (and since the debate!) But it doesn't matter, because it's the But Her Emails 2.0

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Local Oaf 's avatar Local Oaf @snackalgorithm.bsky.social
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Peter, I'd offer the possibility that Biden was in fact "too old" even then and that his defenders were caught off guard because this performance couldn't be written off as a studder.

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Peter's avatar Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social
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i’ll admit i thought he had the juice for the campaign until the debate, because he pulled it together every time he needed to. Every debate, every state of the union, etc. was always prefaced by people saying Biden didn’t have it and being proven wrong. but they were bound to be right eventually.

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Max Berger 's avatar Max Berger @maxberger.bsky.social
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i think that's very true

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