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Radley Balko@radleybalko.bsky.social |
Jesus. Automated enforcement advocates really underestimate the potential for abuse with these cameras. The amount of information they collect is staggering, as is the ability to piece it all together to meticulously track individual people.
reason.com/2024/07/01/s...
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Pad Rock
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These are way different and more comprehensive than something like a speed camera though
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jag (aka j00bar)
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cc: @niedermeyer.io - we were talking about this possibility in a thread a few weeks back I think.
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C.V. Danes
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It's the data sharing that's the problem, although admittedly it would be impossible to share the data if they didn't have it.
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Chip bitney
@fragboner.bsky.social
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This sounds like a real traitor thing to do to American people what in the fuck this can’t hold up in fucking court
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ΔĐΔΜATIK 🌍
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I have never heard of anything like this happening in the EU, where most traffic enforcement is done via cameras. Maybe it's something other than license plate scanners at issue, such as the USA's lack of a codified right to privacy with outlined punishment for violations?
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SGC Illustration
@sgcillo.bsky.social
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From a documentary I saw: "NYC is a liberal city. The NYPD is not. Boston is a liberal city. The BPD is not." When these folks want to take over the country, they won't use the army, they'll use the cops they armed w/military gear for the last +20yrs & itchy trigger fingers.
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Fuzi
@fuzi60.bsky.social
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No such thing as a "good cop".
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ryan
@youfoundryan.bsky.social
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This is why I favor traffic calming through roundabouts and raised crosswalks and such, rather than with cameras. More effective + zero surveillance.
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ivysorta
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Can I be against ALPRs but still want cameras that record when and only when their radar detects a speeding/red-light violation?
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GetYoDrinkOn
@getyodrinkon.bsky.social
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They don't underestimate it; they revel in it...
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Dusty Poncho
@dustyponcho.bsky.social
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Yeah the State's already on putting a stop to this.
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Bravemen
@bravemen.bsky.social
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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Abuse of power is the same problem that exists with police enforcement.
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Kuarahy
@tekorei.bsky.social
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Automated enforcement needs complimentary laws preventing storage and secondary use of data.
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mp
@brkrbr.bsky.social
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There's no technical reason it couldn't work like the old versions (radar gun pops off a polaroid) where it only records detected speeders. Of course it won't without legislation to that effect and those ALPR's are already out there, NOT improving road safety 🤷
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Brian Sweet
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License plate readers are a real scourge. Fine if they want to ping a database that instant to see if that car is wanted for something. But then they need to delete the data!
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Wool-Encased Tea Addict
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Done.
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@goodfriendvic.bsky.social
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🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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@pouncingbullfrog.bsky.social
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This is what I keep telling liberals and the'team incapable of getting it
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Guy with a beard and opinions
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Do they underestimate it? Or do they want exactly that and want to pretend like they’re just ignorant to the harms?
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Rosa
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Minnesota doesn't do automated traffic tickets but our police do have plate tracking cameras all over anyway. I'd rather ban or control the cameras but that seems impossible so it would be nice if they did traffic enforcement with them instead of no enforcement or shooting people
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Stationkeeper
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Can we just go ahead and do what black and brown folks have been telling us for centuries and assume that no police official is trustworthy without outrageously compelling evidence that they are?
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Kevin Webb
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The cameras in question here aren't enforcement related -- they're specifically for surveillance and passively tracking movement. If we ripped down all the red light and speed cameras these things are still there. The solution is legal we don't have a right to privacy in public (yet).
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Firebrand
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'Unfortunately, that doesn't put an end to it, as the grand jury's press release noted that "the Sacramento Police Department continues to share ALPR data with Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona LEAs."' They should be cut off until they are within the law.
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@crimsondynamo4.bsky.social
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Think we really need to look at this whole data collection industry, and I don't know, destroy it. Between using it as a political weapon, using it as a harassment tool, and using it to make ads ever more targeted and obnoxious, I think it's gone way beyond being a net negative for us all.
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Anonymous
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They don't underestimate it at all. They know EXACTLY what they're doing. They've seen how the CCP has brought their people under complete control and they want to bring that to the US, too, under the guise of "public safety".
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Eternal Cat War
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All over CA as well. The problem is the cops.
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LilithLiberated
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