like i have many bad things to say about organized church and the catholic church in specific but the idea that sin is universal and that concrete actions can redeem it is one that is often lost in leftist spaces imo
I think it's a consequence of online movements. It's hard to for some people to really accept the people in the computer as being human, with human foibles, so when something does happen the people must be monsters who have been hiding it all along (which is easy to do online, and bad actors do do.)
Agree. I think it's more accurate to say those leftist spaces are evangelical: you need to accept [fill in the political position] as your personal savior.
There's no religion in my family going back generations, but I'm culturally Jewish enough that the basic premise of "you fucked up, you make reparations" is what makes sense to me.
The Protestant thing of "faith without works is the only way to go" baffles me and is a lot of the problem
Yeah the idea that everyone makes mistakes and moral compromises is something leftism occasionally makes lip service to (no ethical consumption under capitalism!) but there's a lot of "no but this thing *you* did is beyond redemption" purity test shit.
They kind of lost me at 7yo when they said unbaptised babies went to limbo. Turned 55 last month so it wasn't THAT long ago. They bled a lot of their congregation due to the molestations, the anti LGBTQ, & suffering purifies you deal. A lot of the helpers ran & found other areas which lost them $.
I did not have this day as my Defend Some of the Ideas of the Catholic Church day, but I would defend the idea of change and redemption to my last breath.
To be human is to fuck up. To be human is to learn. To be human is (hopefully) on some bright day to fuck up a little less.