Yep. One of the biggest blind spots people have is assuming that underneath, others share the same basic values as them. They have trouble imagining an ideology that is completely misaligned with theirs.
Last sentence reminds me of something Hannah Arendt wrote that I MUST find again: that totalitarianism can only be *fully* understood by autopsy, and that those who aren't mobilized by what is already known won't be when even more is known. (obviously NOT how she put it, she did put it well).
Works the other way too; hence the phrase "every conservative accusation is a confession". We all think others think mostly like us. Many do! Many don't.
No, fascism arises when a population senses the way to remedy chaos or aggrievement is a "strong hand." It never works but that's how it starts.
No ordinary citizen WANTS fascism and its consequences. But the final step seems like the best, possibly drastic, option.
so you think only those with empathy should have power, I hate to tell you but empathy doesn't equal good. Just ask a teacher how many students would care if they fell out of a chair. I asked, but I was the odd ball with no empathy for my fellow students.
Yup.
Inhumanity (not being internally motivated to behave humanely) seems alien to humane people
But we can’t shame the shameless
We can’t guilt the remorseless
And we can’t plead for empathy from those who lack it
We can only force the inhumane to behave humanly
The conclusion makes sense - you don't have to debate them, you must defeat them.
But in order to do that, you need to be able to define the threat clearly, and this ultimately moralistic approach fails to do that.
My empathy hits a short circuit point every time I think about how proudly shameless and selfish the right really is. I want to understand, but literally can't, because in no way does their behavior or ideas match healthy human psychology. Its like staring into the soul of a monster
I feel the same when they talk about people like Trump or Hitler being charismatic. Completely apart from ideology*, even if they were talking about income equality and universal healthcare they still sound gross and insane.
* granted that’s sort of hard to do
What I'm stuck on is, if these guys are 40% of the voting population, how can we like... Have a democracy?
Just, at a base level, how can we have government where the people have a voice when the people are like that?
fascists require obedience if not the dissident will disappear or hang from a tree will our military follow him and obey his orders or will the do a coo and remove him from this existence if he is elected as trump hates the military ???
This seems like all or nothing thinking. True, perhaps, you'll never be able to understand it fully, but that doesn't mean it's not worth studying, and that people shouldn't make their best efforts to try to understand. I particularly recommend Jack London, George Orwell, and Rudyard Kipling.
Attended a 'debate' between 2 experts. Turned out both excellent scholars nearly agreed on every nuance in their shared field. After, they were asked about their political views. One talked nonsense for 5 minutes, the other noted he had opposite views on everything.
I think this is something that being Jewish in a Christian country helps with. You learn pretty quickly that a lot of people think differently than you.
Any Dem w/ pulse stands better chance than Biden. But to win back youth, progressives, Arabs, others alienated by US support for Israeli genocide, *must* hear new direction on Gaza. A mentally competent person committed to massacring Palestinians won’t cut it.
I tell people the reason fascism is not just another form of politics is that its core tenet is there should BE no "politics." It is to politics as cancer is to the body, usually getting power by hijacking the legitimate functions of democracy to bad intents.
Yep. The only principle a fascist has is power. Seeking it, wielding it, and if they can't do those two, worshiping those who do.
That's it. That's *ALL*. All others are a distant second at best, and most often fig leafs.
And often, THEY can't conceive of anyone having principles OTHER than that