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/6 My grandparents didn’t whine about it. Nor, for that matter, did my college classmate who survived as a child in 1970s Cambodia by hiding in a pile of his neighbor’s bodies. So, keep calm and fight.
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Mat Hew
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I reserve my God given right as an American to whine incessantly about anything and everything 😜. But yes to everything else.
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K Kearns
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I studied WWII a lot because it fascinated me that it was possible and I never wanted something like that to happen again. I studied the home front a lot, and took russian, german, and japanese. I have no idea what to do right now. (Doesn't help that I'm in the middle of divorce from a narcissist.)
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cdpositive
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Well said! My father was a WWII flight instructor. The Dr to pass him for bomber flights asked, "Why do you wear glasses?" He said, "Because I can't see w/o them." Dr. - "You're not going". My mother was glad. My father felt guilty. Some of his students didn't return! All we have to do is vote!
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Richard Koenig
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I had a roommate from Vietnam, got out as a kid and made it over here somehow to be an art student (this was a bit later, 1981).
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VFXpapa
@vfxpapa.bsky.social
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This is a good thread, though more than a little terrifying… 😅
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Freya
@dragnflite.bsky.social
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My husband grew up in late 70s and early 80s with Hmung refugee friends. Some of them bore scars from torture, and they were kids.
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Ozma
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As you probably know, it's a bit more complicated. All this stuff affected people. Maybe if my great uncle 'whined' about being a POW he wouldn't have died from drink. Whining is less harmful than some other reactions.
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catladie
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I think this is a useful way to think about it, in that there really is nothing new in human experience here, even if it is new to most Americans living now. There have been very challenging times before, and there will be again. Humans are who they are, and we are a *very* fractious bunch.
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Lydy
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Can I whine while I fight? I fight better if I get to whine about it.
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Christophe
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It's hard not to feel additional despair because "the call is coming from inside the house," as it were, but there are many good, brave people in the country, and all we can do is join them.
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Nirmala
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Also just need to look around the world to places like Gaza or Russia.
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Liza Mazel
@lizamazel.bsky.social
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Yes by all means use the mechanics of democracy while we have it, but it's really urgent to understand we need other options if they stop working. No, this is not a call to violence. I'm gonna finally finish Timothy Snyder's "On Tyranny."
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Liza Mazel
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I think it's okay to whine a little, you know, at times. But yeah. This collective deer in the headlights thing, esp for white mid to UMC Americans, Boomers and younger. maybe even more so the elder among us. We're metaphorically soft handed about this shit.
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Macdoug
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Marc1+vote🧢
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I lived through my senior year in college protesting the Vietnam War. My Mom was scared to death that I won't come home but got arrested. With this SC ruling pressuring us to VOTE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB, I already secured that count!
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@dmgerstein.bsky.social
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You realize that you are suggesting being reflective while you point to situations arising in the midst of armed, genocidal, conflict. I think that line is in sight.
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James Felix Black
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This is right. We shouldn’t have to be making these kinds of comparisons but we also don’t get to avoid reality.
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Mighty Apollo
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My father was a USMC captain in the pacific theatre. His oldest sister married a survivor of occupied Poland - most of his family died in Dachau. Part of me is inspired by their fight. Part of me is glad they are all dead now so I don’t have to see any of them radicalized by FOX News…
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Your Pal in Ypsi
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Ken, as someone who lives with chronic major depression, I've spent the last few days thinking "welcome to my world" - something that happened during the dark days of COVID, too. Wondering if this is something you've experienced. It's pretty strange giving people advice on dealing with despair.
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Warhammerchick
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Fighting is all we have left. That being said, we are going into circumstances that historically lead to nation scale blood letting and possibly decades before anything can be remotely repaired. We have to be clear about the enormity of what this may well be.
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Head Like A Hat
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Whilst I like this optimistic take; the level of existential threat from Climate Change and impending collapse of biodiversity, just somehow feels even more doom laden than yet another war. If we get Trump in power; it won’t be one period of strife; it will be generations suffering this collapse.
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Finnegans
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When I reflect on the sacrifices and eloquence of Rep. John Lewis (et al), it gives me a little more courage to stay in the fight. It is imperative that we do, to ensure - regardless of any benefits we may not survive to see - the survival of our democracy.
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the talented Mr. Dittmann
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the thing that makes this feel different than the late 30s/early 40s is the sense of less social cohesion now. it's hard to measure that and it may be an excessively rosy view of the past, but it seems much more challenging now to unite communities together under one cause
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Ste Roughley
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My favourite perspective in these matters is to remember that we are all of us descended from survivors of the worst that humanity has dealt with: plagues, famines, wars, the lot.
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Jen Ebbeler
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Yeah, I had a high school classmate who survived in this way. It was so hard for us relatively privileged kids to relate. His parents owned a donut store and I used to go hang out and talk to his mom. I learned a lot. He went into tech and is now v wealthy. The donut store is thriving.
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Darrel Plant
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Talking to my dad and his sister on the weekend about growing up in a shack w no running water contemporaneous w “Leave It to Beaver”. Not in the hills of Appalachia—just 10 miles outside Portland.
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Nolan Zugernat
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You're right. And I lived long enough in relative freedom, which is way more than most people who ever lived could say. But I hate it for the kids. I hate it for the kids.
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Frostellicus
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Don’t you feel a corner was turned when a president is given absolute immunity? Also, for those of us who had whole generations of the family tree wiped out in a 10 year period, if you see the writing on the wall you get the hell out before it’s too late
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bastage42
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I mean I think about this stuff sometimes too but thank you for the perspective. My kid had to do senior kindergarten on a laptop, but she was not hiding herself under bodies nor missing any limbs. “Oh god you put a mask on her, that’s abusive!” Wait til she wants birth control …
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