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Andy King

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Hmmm... I don't know that they are Christians... More like "Christians in name only". They sure as hell don't follow the teachings of Christ. I say that, simply because I know a significant number of ACTUAL Christians that DO follow those teachings, and they are honestly good humans.

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☀️ Starshine's avatar ☀️ Starshine @starshine.bsky.social
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Christians beliefs are what Christian’s believe. Its tautological but descriptivism ftw

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Odie's avatar Odie @theodeity.bsky.social
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maybe instead of denying that they're Christians, you should be pushing them to be better

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Lorna's avatar Lorna @florilegia.bsky.social
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Dude, they are Christians

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Benny6Toes's avatar Benny6Toes @benny6toes.bsky.social
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Ummm...no:
religiondispatches.org/stop-trying-...

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Alexandra Merideth Erin [she/her] - in my Brain Damage arc's avatar Alexandra Merideth Erin [she/her] - in my Brain Damage arc @alexandraerin.com
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And they would say the same thing about your good Christian friends. Saying Christian inherently means good is Christian supremacy. If you're not on the side of Christian supremacists, why would you support that view?

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Eb's avatar Eb @ebthen.bsky.social
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They think they're Christians, so surely that's enough. I get the desire to want to other them and say "they're not like us and they're not part of us" but that's not how it works when people who share your broad religiocultural background are being shitty.

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Charles Kinbote's avatar Charles Kinbote @charleskinbote.bsky.social
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Those are still Christians, just because you're ashamed to be associated with them doesn't mean you can just absolve yourself like this

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alber 's avatar alber @captainacab.airbud.website
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no true scotsman

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Nope. No letting the belief off the hook.

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Ward Q. Normal's avatar Ward Q. Normal @wardqnormal.bsky.social
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It's weird to admit it, but the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy is not an actual logical fallacy. No TRUE logical fallacy would be used to deny the existence and identity of other people!

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Francis Serpa's avatar Francis Serpa @fcserpa.bsky.social
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Yeah, they're not real Christians like the ones who burned witches and ran the Inquisition and fought in the Crusades

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Gregory the A'ight 's avatar Gregory the A'ight @gregoryaight.bsky.social
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Andy, word of advice...don't "not all Christians" anybody, but particularly a Jewish person.

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Mayor of the Moon's avatar Mayor of the Moon @moonmayor.bsky.social
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Shouldn't they be out on the street protesting this and the ten commandments? Unless they think that it's actually sweet and harmless

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face of boe jiden's avatar face of boe jiden @makeitsnow.bsky.social
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i think your impulse to define ‘christian’ as ‘follower of christ’s teachings’ has been contrary to common usage for a very long time

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Erin Biba's avatar Erin Biba @erinbiba.bsky.social
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Absolutely fucking not. They are Christians. PERIOD.

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Derek's avatar Derek @dmrma413.bsky.social
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Just because you don't like what they do doesn't make them not what they are

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Cocaine Owlbear's avatar Cocaine Owlbear @cocaineowlbear.bsky.social
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If Muslims have to deal with being lumped in with terrorists, so do Christians. I'm not accusing you of doing that - for all I know, you feel the same way about vile things done in the name of Islam. I'm just saying you can't No True Scotsman one and not the other.

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T.C. Aurelius 's avatar T.C. Aurelius @aurelius.quest
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No, they're Christians from any kind of cultural or comparative religion framework. "No true Christian" just lets Christianity of the hook for empowering these fucks.

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Nona Jabiznez's avatar Nona Jabiznez @nonajabiznez.bsky.social
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Who gets to decide what those teachings mean? Bc different Christians have different opinions and interpretations of what things mean. How "good" does a person need to be to keep their Christian-ness? Bc there are folks out there doing terrible things and they do them very much in Christ's name.

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HappyKaijuStompyTime's avatar HappyKaijuStompyTime @hellokaiju.bsky.social
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The Christofascists have been extremely successful in making their version of Christianity what the average non-church-going-cultural christian thinks 'Christianity' is. They have successfully claimed the label. 'They aren't real Christians'. Yeah, trumpists weren't real republicans either, once.

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Cat Vincent, (he/him, Useless Eater)'s avatar Cat Vincent, (he/him, Useless Eater) @catvincent.bsky.social
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Oh great, another go at the No True Scotsman argument. If you're Christian, take responsibility for your wayward sheep. If you are not, why are you arguing about their theological issues using their texts?

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RDS (formerly shawphd)'s avatar RDS (formerly shawphd) @rds773.bsky.social
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I’m not Christian. It’s not my place or responsibility to figure which of all y’all describing yourselves as Christian are the “real” ones.

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Erik Bryan's avatar Erik Bryan @erikonymous.bsky.social
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Look up the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, think about how that could apply to “”good Christians” and get back to us.

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Wintermute's avatar Wintermute @romeosidvicious.bsky.social
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They are Christians. Trying to minimize their association with Christianity is ignorant at best and dishonest at worst. They are Christian Nationalists and trying to argue the minutiae distracts from the actual harm they are causing.

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Wendel's avatar Wendel @wendelschwab.bsky.social
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Nope, no "in name only." They're 100% Christians.

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Andy King's avatar Andy King @kingster.bsky.social
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Clearly I touched a nerve. I myself am an atheist. I have a number of friends who consider themselves Christian. They hate Trump, they are disgusted by what they're seeing, and have stepped away from their churches that promote anger and hate. What are they, if not Christian?

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Big DeVito Energy's avatar Big DeVito Energy @mayawest.online
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"not all men" but make it religious? come on, Mr. King. you must know that's not right.

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Tyler James Hill's avatar Tyler James Hill @tylerjameshill.bsky.social
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No group of Christians follow the teachings of Christ, you absolute airport vending machine tuna sandwich "Honestly good humans" to others that look like you. There are enough poor and dispossessed in literal of view of me right now to tell me that all these Christians follow Republican Jesus

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bonque, ben's avatar bonque, ben @kwstzhaderbonch.bsky.social
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Christian is as Christian does, and Christian frequently does crime. Some Christians don't, but some Christians definitely do bad things while also being Christians.

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