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I'm going to tell you all a secret about "techbros". When you use that term, you're probably thinking about guys who write code. You are wrong. In my experience, 70% of coders hate the tech industry as much as and for the same reasons as everyone else. Your enemy is the Product Manager.

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Dom's avatar Dom @signordom.bsky.social
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I'm a PM, and I'm sorry.

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Eleanor, OFS's avatar Eleanor, OFS @eleanorofs.bsky.social
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Yep. Made this in response to an NYT article on the "techlash" that didn't interview any actual technologists. Seems relevant.

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Mentat's avatar Mentat @mentat.bsky.social
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In the modern tech company, the coder does not decide what to build, how it should work, or what it should look like. The job has been reduced to taking orders from MBAs who think "Uber for Pets" is a great idea and that we should shove LLMs into everything.

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D's avatar D @regular-joe.bsky.social
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10000000000% correct

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Him.'s avatar Him. @ceeejay.bsky.social
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Yup, techies are generally OK (there are of course exceptions), it's the people who manage, sell or invest in tech who are the assholes.

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Harley (hellhound) and Frankie (human)'s avatar Harley (hellhound) and Frankie (human) @harleyhellhound.bsky.social
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I’m usually picturing either a guy in a poorly fit suit OR dressed like a hobo, but each item of clothing costs more than my SSDI check.

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Faine Greenwood's avatar Faine Greenwood @faineg.bsky.social
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oh im very much largely thinking about the idiot tech managerial class when I say it, though one can’t deny that there are some miserable assholes who actually push code too

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jędrek's avatar jędrek @jedrek.bsky.social
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Yeah, I've been making the web since the 1990s, and I think modern tech is bad, VC is a cancer, but both are predictable symptoms of capitalism.

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Dancing Paladin's avatar Dancing Paladin @bojanglespaladin.bsky.social
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Not at all. Techbros are ALWAYS management and sales side.

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peter_donnelly's avatar peter_donnelly @peter-donnelly.bsky.social
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More the execs

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Andrew W Moore (he/him)'s avatar Andrew W Moore (he/him) @awm22.bsky.social
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Also sales, always sales.

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r's avatar r @recombobulating.bsky.social
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No I'm thinking about a condescending dude who thinks he knows everything about tech but actually knows fuck all.

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Catherine the 🍓Redhead 's avatar Catherine the 🍓Redhead @rapieress.bsky.social
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I don’t know, a friend’s husband is a top level programmer who refuses to vote and has conspiracies about the govt. (He was in the military for a while). Other than that, he’s a nice guy. It’s odd.

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Crispycrise's avatar Crispycrise @crispycrise.bsky.social
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Ok but what about the project manager

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Mo's avatar Mo @moinqueens.bsky.social
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and the CEO and board of directors

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Kami Bee's avatar Kami Bee @kami.land
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People who write code always take the fall for the real douches in the room. 🙄 And then those guys tell us they don't even need the people who write code, they can replace us with AI or more managers or something. Just leave us alone to go on writing good code! 🤷

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Daniel J. Willis's avatar Daniel J. Willis @bayareadata.press
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Look, if they're wearing a vest—any vest mind you, not just Patagonia—I want nothing to do with them.

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John DeRosa's avatar John DeRosa @theverdict.bsky.social
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Eh, No. My enemy are founders and VC partners who are social psychopaths.

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Sage 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar Sage 🏳️‍⚧️ @trans.bsky.social
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as someone who worked in product management for almost a decade, you’re totally right that a lot of them are MBA ghouls. it’s frustrating because the PM role can be such a huge benefit to the dev if they’re not evil. 😕

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Alexi Wolfe's avatar Alexi Wolfe @alexiwolfe.bsky.social
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And the marketing department.

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RonarsCorruption(He/Him)'s avatar RonarsCorruption(He/Him) @ronarscorruption.bsky.social
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As a coder, I can confirm that the techbros in my company drive me up the wall.

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the mjl (michael j leblanc)'s avatar the mjl (michael j leblanc) @themjl.bsky.social
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...can confirm.

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BruceG's avatar BruceG @moosens.bsky.social
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No our enemy is the vulture capitalist and CEO who are looking for ways to make a quick buck by hyping solutions to problems that are better solved other ways if they even exist

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's avatar @nclud.bsky.social
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You're getting a lot of push back in here along multiple dimensions and it really highlights the problem even more. It's an ambiguous pejorative used in a bunch of different ways. For those of us who grew up a bit socially awkward and loved math & computers, then found good employment with our 1/

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Malachite Tigerbunny's avatar Malachite Tigerbunny @malachitetiger.bsky.social
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I've switched to the phrase "tech-finance bros" because it turns out that's specifically the sort I'm usually talking about.

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Synthwhoa's avatar Synthwhoa @synthwhoa.bsky.social
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I thought it was the general consensus that a "techbro" was a douche-y guy who promotes a technology without knowing how it works or why it might be useful.

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Dr Bluesky's avatar Dr Bluesky @estru.me
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For me the typical techbro is the "idea guy" that infests Silicon Valley. The guy who has no idea about how tech works, but will say things like "our new enterprise AI-powered blockchain solution will revolutionize the way smart contracts are actioned in this new de-fi reality"

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RadioFreeZerg's avatar RadioFreeZerg @radiofreezerg.bsky.social
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My company has started taking experts in the problems we are fighting and making them product managers and boy did that solve the turnover problem immediately.

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el yucatecx's avatar el yucatecx @yucateco.sextape.mov
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yeah nah it’s men with STOCKS in tech, too many drones and also 30% of programmers and engineers too lol

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FakeAndres's avatar FakeAndres @andres.rive.ro
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Obligatory @zitron.bsky.social podcast plug. He does a great job explaining this from the top down, FAANG to PM, garbage feature pipeline

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Joel 🍦's avatar Joel 🍦 @polyparadigm.bsky.social
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This in contrast to upstream parts of the tech tree, like where I work: product management is staffed by hardware engineers with experience supporting customers, and it works pretty well.

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