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Mitchell Epner@mitchellepner.bsky.social |
With regard to former Sec. of Defense Mark Esper’s chilling account that then-President Trump wanted troops confronting protestors in Lafayette Park to “shoot them in the legs”, I’d love to hear someone ask the follow up question whether Trump understood that people would fall & get hit in torso.
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Socrates Johnson (Paul)
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That and the fact that leg wounds are extremely dangerous on their own. And that it's a lot harder to aim for extremities on moving targets which is why when deadly force is authorized, you aren't trained to aim for legs/arms.
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Mat Hew
@hotairmat.bsky.social
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Or just that people can and do bleed out from leg wounds too. The idea that shooting someone in the arm or leg isn't a use of deadly force needs to go away.
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DTaylor 🌄🤓🌿🗳️
@scrabbyone.bsky.social
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He does not understand that unlike a TV show, shooting people can't be scripted; they aren't inclined to cooperate.
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Daniel Quinn
@danielquinn.bsky.social
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People are like their stick figure representations. You just draw, er, put, a bloody bandage on the wounded legs and you’re done.
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Mitchell Epner
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To be clear, I understand that leg wounds can easily be fatal. I just would love to hear whether Trump understood “shoot them in the legs” was an impossible-to-achieve, idiotic request when dealing massed troops confronting a mass protest from a distance.
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Potomatic
@onbluskysku.bsky.social
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Also does he think soldiers have aim that good at distance with any gun that would not totally erase a chunk of femur?
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The Sane
@thesane.bsky.social
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Details details
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James Felix Black
@tft.io
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Like he'd give a shit.
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Mr. Mads
@mrmads.bsky.social
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No problem now. SCOTUS has taken care of it.
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Allan Murphy
@cullenskink.bsky.social
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Trump has just seen old cowboy movies where the hero in the white stetson shoots a pistol out of the hand of the bad guy with a black stetson and it seems pretty good to him.
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Josh Manning
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Also military doesn’t shoot the legs. Training is center mass, right in the chest. They are no leg shots.
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Charles Johnson
@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com
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Getting shot in the leg with a military rifle has a very good chance of killing you, as well.
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Don Zeko
@donzeko.bsky.social
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Other jurisdictions may vary, but there's a word for "I was only trying to shoot him in the legs; I didn't mean to kill him" here: murder.
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Paul Driggere 🦋
@writerwithcats.bsky.social
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Wonder what happens if you shoot a bone spur.
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Shane McGarry, Ph.D.
@irishgeek79.bsky.social
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I highly doubt he considered that but I’m also pretty sure he didn’t care. He doesn’t see any of us as people. We either support him (in which case we are just pawns to further enrich himself) or we are his enemies in which case our lives are meaningless and he doesn’t care if his actions kill us.
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Dorothy A. Winsor
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The idea that you can shoot someone with only minor damage is a TV/movie created fantasy. What's more, an FBI agent told me they were trained to aim for the torso, the largest target. If you draw your gun, you better mean to take someone down. A gun is not a toy or a prop.
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Gom Jabbarbarienne
@thebarbarienne.bsky.social
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How about that getting hit in the leg can actually kill you, and also mere maiming is also unacceptable.
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Martin Gardner
@mglovesfun.bsky.social
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Sounds like an official act.
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flopperdog
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This was always a fantasy for Trump in which he could have protestors shot (which he wants) without the consequences (which he doesn't) of killing them. Since it's now official that there can be no consequences for anything he does with the military, next time he won't bother to say "in the legs"
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Goodie Howell
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This is how you know John Roberts, despite all his fake religiosity, doesn’t really believe in heaven or hell cause if he did ..
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Hollihobbi
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Is that really the question here? WTH.
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@aaronmfc.bsky.social
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Why would you love that? First, he wouldn’t answer and second, he couldn’t give a fuck.
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The Chillennial
@thechillennial.bsky.social
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It's legal now, so we get to find out soon
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It's a Pip!
@nopipbutcpip.bsky.social
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The real question: Did Trump care, or was he just using that phrasing as a convenient cover? "Oh, no, they were supposed to aim for legs, I don't know how they got hit in the skull, but they were nasty bad people anyway so it doesn't matter that they're dead."
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Doug Wolfe
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Um, how about having the US military shoot US protesters AT ALL? Sounds very Project 2025 to me.
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Owl
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If they fell and got shot in the pelvic girdle they’d bleed out quickly.
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