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e.w. niedermeyer@niedermeyer.io |
had to gently break it to my mom that her friends who are already planning on moving to Italy may not in fact be escaping fascism to the extent they think they are
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e.w. niedermeyer
@niedermeyer.io
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France and the Netherlands ain't looking great either!
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Marque
@marquemaire.bsky.social
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I hope her friends know what it's like to grow old and die in a country where 1) you don't fully master the language, 2) have no family to rely on and 3) have no really safe legal status.
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Regular Non-Seasonal Steve Cartwright
@chompmancobra.bsky.social
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Better coffee though
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Capn Borscht
@capnborscht.bsky.social
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But a teenager online told me Europe has all of the Nice Shiny Things???
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ShinigamiDad "Designated Dingus"
@marktspence.bsky.social
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<cues "Winds of War" on the VCR>
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Richard Koenig
@rich-king.bsky.social
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Back to the land of Il Duce, nice. I can't keep track of which European countries are moving right.
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Ammonium Azide
@nh4n3.bsky.social
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fascism? In Italy? Say it ain't so
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Tom Bellino
@tombellino.bsky.social
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But couldn't they move to Ireland or Spain or wherever if they had Italian (EU) citizenship?
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The Lore of Justine
@troppypop.bsky.social
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This toward everyone fleeing to the UK because they speak English so it feels easiest. UHM, HEY-
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Sam
@very-simple.com
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I had to explain to my dad that he can't just move elsewhere because other countries also don't have open borders and aren't necessarily looking to let in a bunch of new refugees from America.
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Giorgio Graffino
@giorgiograffino.bsky.social
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As an Italian, I can't disagree on this 😢 About other options, the political outlook in the UK is somewhat good, but the weather definitely isn't. Probably the north of Spain is the place I would personally choose for now.
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Philip the Italic
@fernmonkey.bsky.social
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The solution is very simple: move to Bologna. It's a beautiful city where their two favourite things are delicious food and shooting fascists.
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Grodaeu
@grodaeu.bsky.social
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Doesn't have the full on randomness of Trump style fascism though. Which may or may not be an advantage depending.
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Mad Ferosis
@madferosis.bsky.social
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Even New Zealand has a right-wing government now with some far right figures in positions of power
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Justin White
@jwhite.bsky.social
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The only people who will stick the landing on this are the people who started the process in earnest in 2016 when he got in the first time.
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Lauren McKenzie [free 🇵🇸]
@themckenziest.gay
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So many oofs just hit me reading this lol oh no
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Diandra Linnemann
@diandralinnemann.bsky.social
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We'll just have to agree on a country, gather there and take over.
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Karate Bearfighter
@karatebearfighter.bsky.social
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"Why, I heard the Italians don't even have a word for fascism, so they had to borrow ours, just to describe the concept. Isn't that amazing?"
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Kim
@kimoco.bsky.social
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I assume most Americans have no idea what life is actually like in places like Italy. Politics there have been a mess for a long long time. And fascism is popular, especially in the North
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bob barker 🍉
@insortediaboli.bsky.social
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Me to my wife when she indicates maybe making for Germany: “you know, the AfD has more power now”
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KA SEMENOVA
@kasemenova.bsky.social
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I did research in 2018 or so & realized I qualify for a Ukrainian passport. Oh well. It helped at the time.
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Charter School Abolitionist
@maniccage.bsky.social
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Time to pitch Cuba 🇨🇺
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Octocryptid 🜬
@octocryptid.bsky.social
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That's like, the place it comes from
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Go Deep, I'll Look for You
@godeep.bsky.social
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Italy is going thru some shit right now.
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Devin𓅃
@devin-eleven.bsky.social
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Yes, fascism is popping up everywhere around the globe like weeds. There is no outrunning it.
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@dreid63
@dreid63.bsky.social
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👀
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Ryan Crinnigan
@spiritduplicator.bsky.social
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ireland tho lookin pretty tempting. thanks dad
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Funranium (AKA Phil Broughton)
@funranium.bsky.social
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"Live, Laugh, Oppress" just doesn't have the same pop to it for an escape to Tuscany.
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@exico.bsky.social
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As an Italian who moved abroad 11 years ago, I second this message. Ironically, fascism is against our constitution but the ideology never really left the country, unfortunately. I mean, the bastards didn't even have Nuremberg trials, so of course they feel they did nothing wrong.
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Amy Hoy
@amyhoy.bsky.social
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i think of this as the ✨magical europe✨ delusion. like, having experienced "universal" healthcare, it's not as great as people imagine (and it's not universal) i told my husband he shouldn't go for US citizenship so he could keep his austrian citizenship but lol that one's a nonstarter too
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Bill Stewart
@billstewart.bsky.social
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Some of my ancestors left the Germanies to avoid the religious wars of the 1500s, got to England and found that their timing had been ... less than ideal.
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@axamaqueda.bsky.social
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It depends. Lombardy should be fine. South Tirol scary indeed. So, where?
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Nihl L'Amas
@nih-llamas.bsky.social
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Also it makes your taxes harder.
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Integrable Lena
@leadvest.bsky.social
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Clark Starr
@comfortstarr.bsky.social
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Probably still better social services/healthcare, but yeah, I wouldn't exactly be eying Italy.
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Tamara Keel
@tamslick.bsky.social
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"Mom, they actually invented it."
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Jay Marose
@jaymarose.bsky.social
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Europe goes to Putin. Thats just math. Saudi gets ME. China gets Africa to farm. US becomes beggar to all 3, since 🤡 made solar panels & EVs go to china. The trumps get to run golf courses until they dont need him anymore.
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WithoutMalice@withforethought
@withoutmalice.bsky.social
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Meloni is doing what the SCOTRP has done to the US.
jacobin.com/2024/06/ital...
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Sighing
@cbenedetto.bsky.social
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my great-great-grandmother had to sleep on her trunk on the way over from Italy but my wack brother thinks it might be good to go back because they'll pay you to live there. and I'm just like haha yeah uhh lemme leave the room now
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Sean Skunk-Cabbage ⚓
@moldybasil.bsky.social
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If the decision is fascism or fascism with a solid cafe culture honestly it's not that hard of a decision
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Felgraf
@felgraf.bsky.social
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I'm a little worried about stuff here in Finland but it also seems like a lot of people are MAJORILY pissed at the current coalition. Hopefully I'll be able to vote by the time the next set of parliamentary elections come 'round.
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