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Someone's probably written a 2-hour long YouTube video about this, but I'm just sitting here thinking about how when Lucas and the team made Star Wars, it was them remixing little bits of everything he was a fan of. But now, when making Star Wars, it's just people remixing Star Wars itself forever.
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@heartofshady.bsky.social
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this is why studio trigger's short for Visions was based heck this is why Visions has been based in general
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Brandon Bird
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It's a sliding scale and every project is a little different in terms of how much it regurgitates. On side is JJ Abrams, on the other is Tony Gilroy.
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STAR🌟GONE🌟WRONG🪱🧿Д🧿
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it's only 9 minutes, but it's great
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METALQUEERSOLID
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That’s why I liked Andor so much 👀 it felt like it was bringing in so much juice from other places, a breath of fresh air
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Brad
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Modern star wars is the Waluigi of cinema.
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🌻Sunny🌻
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This is why Rogue One and especially Andor worked so well for me. The vision wasn’t directed by someone who loved Star Wars, it was directed by someone who loved espionage and war films and given a Star Wars coat of paint, which has ALWAYS worked best in my opinion.
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@boredompeejeterson.bsky.social
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That's not really true. Andor is a spy show, The Acolyte is a crime show, Mandalorian was a western at first
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Nate is waking up
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What is interesting that because of the size of the Star Wars empire, it is becoming an aesthetic and a shorthand in much the way that most modern fantasy aesthetic is based off Tolkien.
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Arash Mohebbi
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That's how we wound up with the Death Of Superman and the precipitous collapse of the comics biz back then
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Kansas Blueblood
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This is the broader problem with the current film industry. Lucas was fortunate enough to come along just after the collapse of the studio system. Film companies were willing to take risks on original ideas because they had to. Now we're enslaved to the brand be it SW or MCU until another shake up
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Logan
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thats what made mando s1 so good and mando s3 so bad
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Mark Major
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That's why, despite its flaws, I liked TLJ. It felt like it was actually trying to move the franchise in a new direction. It's a shame Abrams did everything he could to counter that in the next film.
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Avery M
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This is every RedLetterMedia video about franchises in the past 4 years or so. They talked about it extensively for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire and the one before that
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Tea Dalek
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Was listening to an interview with Contrapoints yesterday and she made this exact point, more or less, but more in the context of why it's good to make what you want rather than what "the fans want" sometimes. Before "the fans" saw Star Wars, they didn't know they wanted Star Wars.
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Your🐀text🐀here
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Like ai algorithms consuming themselves to become more distorted
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Shane F King
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Yes but for what its worth, Mando at least was inspired by Lone Wolf and Cub
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Finger
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I agree with this
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Orion
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Reminds me of the "If you squint at any modern Scifi, you can see Dune underneat" thing. it's how it is, i suppose that is just how culture develops. Today maybe a bit faster then in the past?
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Andy J. T.
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I think it is even worse. Not sure about Star Wars, but a lot of franchises just try to make what they think fans of the franchise would like to see.
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psudonym
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You got your Flash Gordon, your cowboy outlaws, your samurai sword fights, your Isaac Asimov robots, and World War 1 flying ace dog fighting in my hero's journey. But now, the franchise's own nature, with established rules, doctrines, and style guides, makes it very hard to add more to that recipe.
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Lev42.bsky.social
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The best new Star Wars have been the least incestuous, named Andor and season 1 of the Mandalorian.
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illegal anime columbo
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And that's how AI works
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daryl "happy birthday to the GROUND" bartley 🏳️⚧️
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and not even allowed to remix it very far either.. when it became so rigidly "the brand" that was the downward spiral starting, for me at least. there's such a strong visual and stylistic signifiers it should have so much room to play otherwise, but no, gotta close it in tighter
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Iizard
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Same reaons AI is stalling
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James Van Fleet
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Yep. I know a lot of people weren’t big on TLJ, but I liked how that pulled in some “Brazil” with Canto Bight, “Rashomon” with the Rey storyline, and submarine movie tropes with the space chase. And “Andor” doing heist pictures and “THX” for its prison sequences. Take the opportunity to diversify!
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Marduk Kurios
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Except maybe for TLJ but don't worry, that will never be allowed to happen again.
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Eric Baker
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Indiana Jones is the same way. Indiana Jones references old adventure serial's and pulp novels. Newer things just reference Indiana Jones. Luke, why do we need an Uncharted movie when Uncharted was Indiana Jones which was a million little things.
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Jesse Farrell
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THIS is what I keep saying. I tapped out of Star Wars quite a while ago (not for any particular reason other than the love for it fizzled), but it seemed like maybe Johnson was trying to reintroduce some nods cinema history? But I guess his work was divisive.
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Frugal GFN Boomer
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I see your point. I really loved the 1st season of Baby Yoda because they basically riffed on old westerns. Since then, the reference nerd-only SW cartoons I guess. So I agree
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Lizardguy64
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Why yes, that is how sequels work. Heck, that's literally the second Star Wars movie.
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