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The Anti-Liberal Left Has a Fascism Problem   Prominent leftwing intellectuals are allowing their singular, disdain-driven focus on (neo-) liberalism to completely distort their perspective on the Right.   New piece:

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jadehawk's avatar jadehawk @jadehawk.bsky.social
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"which is why the talk of fascism exploded under someone like Trump and not under someone like Bush" that is not how i remember the bush years

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Thomas Zimmer's avatar Thomas Zimmer @thomaszimmer.bsky.social
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A specific camp of leftwing intellectual Skeptics is stubbornly refusing to engage seriously with the fascism argument and the radicalizing tendencies on the Right. Their overriding concern is a political struggle against what they believe is the real enemy: The (neo-) liberal elites.

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Kevin Korb's avatar Kevin Korb @kbkorb.bsky.social
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There isn't any real "fascism argument". There's just the Trump/MAGA fascist-oriented moves and then people's responses. The response of "let's look at Jan 6 but not see anything" lacks all integrity.

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Ozma's avatar Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social
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One thing that's weird--and it proves nothing, but--liberals weren't always going on and on about fascism BEFORE. It's not some liberal thing to freak out about fascism. And many of them are actually blind and stupid about a lot of it. They barely get it. It's not 'a liberal thing' but a left thing.

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Mimi's avatar Mimi @idkyrbffmimi.bsky.social
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Grubbs's avatar Grubbs @grubbsgrubbsgrubbs.bsky.social
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That is a difficult sentence to read 😖

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Rob Michlowitz 's avatar Rob Michlowitz @arvrrob.bsky.social
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What’s funny is that neo-liberalism has faded amongst liberals.

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HansBKK's avatar HansBKK @hansbkk.bsky.social
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And also continue to fight the pro-corporate pro-oligarchs "mainstream center" of all US politics which I label fascist. Trump has been elevated also with their help, to act as a bogeyman and preserve their hegemony over our discourse. Fundamental changes are required to eliminate the 2-party syste

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HansBKK's avatar HansBKK @hansbkk.bsky.social
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Yes, Trump is just a symptom of the drastically powerful rise of the isms he is riding for his political advantage and personal aggrandizement. We should be grateful he is such an idiot clown, and truly fear not him but those behind his rise and those who will follow in future.

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DyingBreedxoxo's avatar DyingBreedxoxo @dyingbreed.bsky.social
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This is an important and badly needed writing. I see you making two main points — (1) leftist anti-Libs are today operating in a way that is ultimately antithetical to their professed goals; (2) their underlying complaints will be viewed by history as well-founded. ….

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Ap_Saegge. Karaoke-Ära X's avatar Ap_Saegge. Karaoke-Ära X @saegge.bsky.social
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As a German I am deeply surprised this is something serious people argue about. It's *pretty* obvious the US became fascist under Trump (and never adressed this under Biden, in parts even ran with it) with open fascism in republican states escalating on a daily basis.

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Florence Ashley's avatar Florence Ashley @floralashes.bsky.social
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To be fair, there’s at least a 47% chance that Jacobin is a CIA psy-op.

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Otter's avatar Otter @otterlyqueer.bsky.social
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Go far enough in either direction, and you’ll find you’ve gone in a circle

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Soaps&SciFi's avatar Soaps&SciFi @soapsscifi.bsky.social
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This was also the case in 2016 and 2020. The trust fund cosplay socialists and all the podcasters who jumped ship from Bernie pushed the great economic anxiety alliance. The far right has done nothing to meet them (unless you count rebranding from the likes of Jackson Hinkle) but the push remains.

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EclecticAutie, Observer of Things's avatar EclecticAutie, Observer of Things @eclecticautie83.bsky.social
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Which is part of the reason why I no longer know what to call myself. "Leftist" seems to imply a certain ideological purity which I doubt I possess, yet "liberal" is a dirty word to them. It's like leftists are the popular kids and I want to belong but I don't think I do.

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Chris Parker's avatar Chris Parker @crs1.bsky.social
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the big thinkers incapable of reading the room they remind me, ironically, of many Dem senators protected from the consequences of their stances this particular lefty faction has become the caricature

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Donnodubus's avatar Donnodubus @donnodubus.bsky.social
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While I whole-heartedly agree that what we are seeing is truly Fascist, I have to agree with Bessner that Leftists can't actually unite with Liberalism against it. Because Liberalism itself not only has strains of Fascism, but it sets the conditions that breed this Trumpist "counter-revolution"...

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MGTOW4Me's avatar MGTOW4Me @lestersuggs.bsky.social
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Hammer. Hammer. Hammer. Nail. Nail. Nail. Nail. Nail. Nail.

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Taylor Nichols, MD FACEP's avatar Taylor Nichols, MD FACEP @tnicholsmd.bsky.social
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It's the horseshoe theory of politics, and always comes back to authoritarianism and control.

I was just making a point about this today:
bsky.app/profile/tnic...

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Peter Feld 🍉's avatar Peter Feld 🍉 @peterfeld.bsky.social
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Anti-left liberals have a genocide problem

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Paul Crider's avatar Paul Crider @paulcrider.liberalcurrents.com
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Was the panel you mentioned in the first post (sorry just getting to this!) recorded? I'd love to listen to it.

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maraleia's avatar maraleia @maraleia.bsky.social
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They've gone insane.

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The Inconsistent Dragon, Alephwyr's avatar The Inconsistent Dragon, Alephwyr @alephwyr.therian.wtf
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Oh you mean the dirtbag left

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