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Imani Gandy@angryblacklady.bsky.social |
i just can't imagine defending israel. Defend Jews yes. Oppose antisemitism. Please. But why are pepole defending Israel? They're literally committing War Crimes. It's savage. Fucking South Africa filed a claim with the ICJ. SOUTH AFRICA. if anyone knows apartheid, it's south africa ffs
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Cynde
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Why is this such an impossible concept even for lefties?
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@jonnypullen.bsky.social
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it’s felt like the Twilight Zone watching Americans defend and tone police literal genocide
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Raymond Gibson
@raymondgibson.bsky.social
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You have Serbia voting to condemn Israel at the UN, then Bosnia wanting to try a Serbian ethnostate again. Because they didn’t learn anything last time and their Muslims are different. Also, Myanmar disapproves, but their Muslims are different too.
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Jason
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Yes to all of this. Every word. 👏
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Navel Jelly
@navaljelly.bsky.social
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The irony of Israel's actions is that it will only inflame antisemitism and make Israel less safe in the future. They're burning their bridges with white phosphorus.
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Pé 🍸
@forevernever.bsky.social
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There's been a long-term (very successful) effort by pro-Israel groups to conflate Jewish people with Israel and anti-Zionism with antisemitism.
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@dschwarz.bsky.social
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SA being expert on apartheid has no bearing whatsoever on their knowledge of the laws of war. War crimes is an easy term to throw around, but I think SA’s accusations are entirely political. How do they have access to evidence that others do not?
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WeirwoodTreeHugger
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The talking points of Israel supporters have not changed since October and they're becoming increasingly absurd and disconnected from reality. I don't understand the level of denial you have to be in to still earnestly argue them.
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Garden of the East
@gardenoftheeast.bsky.social
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Hamas and other creeps like the Islamic Jihad of Palestine turn Gaza into a huge military structure, from which they fire intentionally at Israeli civilians FOR DECADES, hiding below the civilian population in their tunnels, besides digging many other ones to attack Israelis.
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kriemhild
@kriemhild.bsky.social
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south africa isn't what it used to be lol
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Rev. Magdalen
@revmagdalen.bsky.social
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It depends on what you mean by "defending Israel." Since Israel is the only nation in the world that Westerners feel entitled to contemplate annihilating against the will of its people, sometimes "defending Israel" means "defending Israel going on existing at all," instead of the normal meaning.
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Comfortably Numb
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What's funny (not sure if this is the right word here) is that a lot of people supporting Israel are antisemites.
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Alex (he/him) 🇺🇦
@tsrhg.bsky.social
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In the apartheid days Israel and S Africa were each other's closest ally.
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Grumble Kitty
@grumblekitty.bsky.social
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I also believe that having S. Africa file the complaint wasn’t determined in a vacuum. You can bet that other countries were in alignment on legal, political, social strategy behind it. I can’t defend any parties involved. It’ll end in patriarchal zealots abusing power in the name of their god
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Grumble Kitty
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It’s important people understand the motivations and machinations behind the Christian right’s support for Israel. They believe this is a sign of the apocalypse. Jews will be “saved” if they convert. These are sick people. they have tons of power. www.theguardian.com/world/2023/o...
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Dru K
@awanderingsoul.bsky.social
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I am guessing killing 1200 peaceful Jewish festival goers a moot point? This is a war crime as well.
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Frances Forncett
@forncettfrances.bsky.social
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It is exactly because S. Africa knows and understands oppression that they are speaking out for Palestinians. It is the same with the Irish. They are speaking out. No justice means no peace.
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Mark (Wumpy) McCaw 🇮🇪 🇵🇸
@wumpyspeaks.bsky.social
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Canada invented Apartheid. We're the real experts.
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Рис Басматі
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Guys help us in our fight against russia… Do you forget about their crimes? We are really need your support now.
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@chambers888.bsky.social
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Tell me you don't understand South African politics, without telling me you don't understand South African politics.
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Allie’s Pet Shark
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That Israel is the villain before, during and after Oct. 7 seems clear and uncomplicated. That Israel should hold no power over legal, natural, economic, land, carceral or anything affecting life and atmosphere is reinforced by every Israeli government statement and every action to advance Zionism.
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Jonathan
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People defend it for the same reason they defended Rhodesia, semi white people against non-whites.
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Flan Solo
@flansolo.bsky.social
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The previous Gaza war was followed by a cease fire and eventually by Hamas launching October 7. That must not happen again.
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Dave Couto - podcast editing and production
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Jewish South African anti-apartheid activists really crystallized my perspectives on Israel. Many of them very clearly draw the parallels.
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Dawson400🥃
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Understanding the defense of Israel is complex. Support for Jews and opposing antisemitism is crucial. However, questioning Israel's actions, accused of war crimes, is valid. Even South Africa, familiar with apartheid, raised concerns at the ICJ. 🤔🌍
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Dawson400🥃
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Understanding the defense of Israel is complex. Support for Jews and opposing antisemitism is crucial. However, questioning Israel's actions, accused of war crimes, is valid. Even South Africa, familiar with apartheid, raised concerns at the ICJ. 🤔🌍
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Linda A
@lindalka.bsky.social
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Agree. Netanyahu is a monster. This cannot continue.
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Titanosaurus
@titanosaurus.bsky.social
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I think a part of it is identity politics and cable news
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Ms Summerblossom
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What do you mean by Israel? The current government? Or the existence of the state and its people? I can't imagine defending Hamas. But very many do.
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Guy Fox
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Don’t disagree. However South Africa is also signing business deals with Russia. Who has been (and continues to) commit war crimes in Ukraine for the better part of 2 years. Their moral high ground isn’t as high as it was in previous years.
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Catherine in Chester
@chestercat.bsky.social
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I was just shouting this same point in our house. When South Africa chimes in this way...they totally know.
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Lisa Mims
@lisamims.bsky.social
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I’m not sure some of them aren’t bots? Many people won’t comment if it doesn’t involve them. Russian disinformation has been around for so long you could set the clocks in St. Petersburg by it. Look for pot stirrers from countries that would benefit from Biden losing the election. Suspect bots.
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Wendel
@wendelschwab.bsky.social
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I'll never understand why people defend a nation-state over actual people.
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AnitaV (aka JambiBlue)
@jambiblue.bsky.social
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Yes. 👍🏼
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Zemi
@zemiboriken.bsky.social
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Because Israel is using religion to justify Genocide. To the world everything is justifiable in the name of religion.
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Daffy Duck
@glamrock71.bsky.social
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But now they are Putin's best buddies. Not really better than Israel...
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PlanetSaver66
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well im not and yes support jews ,tell zionist take a hike , support palestein. most the usa jews i have come accross dont support the state of israel and want to live in peace .
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Harry
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