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Kaitlin Ruiz

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let me put this another way: despair, or its new name, doomerism, asserts omniscience--that things cannot be better, that all possibilities of good are already foreclosed, that you can know this as fact. it looks like humility, but it's all ego. it is, in fact, the assumption of godhood.

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Cate 🐬's avatar Cate 🐬 @catebridget.bsky.social
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“joy does not betray but sustains my activism”

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joshua caleb weibley's avatar joshua caleb weibley @livingfake.bsky.social
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Extremely well put. I’ve been saying for years that cynicism isn’t intelligence, but this cuts much sharper.

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Adam Kotsko 's avatar Adam Kotsko @adamkotsko.bsky.social
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The God Who Sucked

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Atkinson's avatar Atkinson @maddavenport.bsky.social
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HOLLA

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La Seńorita Vaquita Monstrita Dolores de Flores's avatar La Seńorita Vaquita Monstrita Dolores de Flores @smarterthanawaffle.bsky.social
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Hope keeps Hell in place

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kgoak's avatar kgoak @kgoak201.bsky.social
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That’s how I feel about all the shity things that Scotus majority upholds. I was really in a depressed mood about them saying Potus can have immunity.

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Alyssa Harad's avatar Alyssa Harad @alyssaharad.bsky.social
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Despair is one of the sins you ask forgiveness for on Yom Kippur--an inevitable human sin. "Forgive us for we have trafficked with cynics and indulged in despair."

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Conductor 's avatar Conductor @chanchan.bsky.social
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As Bojack Horseman said: Life is a series of closing doors.

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I think grieving is fine, actually.

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Hushbuppy's avatar Hushbuppy @hushbuppy.bsky.social
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Reminds me of when I was a kid, being counseled that saying you were worthless or unlovable might seem humble but was akin to elevating yourself over God since you're saying you know better. I'm not much of an adherent now but that always stuck with me.

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Dawn 's avatar Dawn @dawnbuggy.bsky.social
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“Despair is for those who see the end beyond all hope. We do not.” No less true for being quoted out of a novel (and underlined by my copy’s previous owner).

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nick's avatar nick @nickpcr.bsky.social
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Thank you for making a little light in thundering darkened times.

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Therefore, there exist two kinds of "doomers" (catchy isn't it?) one kind that thinks that we can not change and that we are doomed and the ones that think that we can change if humanity frees itself from a broken system. These are the revolutionaries ;)

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Doomerism is just a framing of the system trying to suppress the understanding that if humanity continues on its curse we are doomed as you can not overrun every red line that exists and hope to get away with it as a species depending on a functioning biosphere...

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SSÆternitatis's avatar SSÆternitatis @ssaeternitatis.bsky.social
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which is silly as godhead is antidoom

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Horrified, Lydia's avatar Horrified, Lydia @lfillingham.bsky.social
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Definitely agree. One thing about the word doomerism: I don't really like the word but it does some good work in that despair is also a description of depression, which is not egotism, and I hope to god that Catholicism doesn't still consider it a sin. I'm not saying use one or the other.

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Jacob Harris's avatar Jacob Harris @harrisj.bsky.social
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I also feel like there is an implicit egotism in doomerism about feeling you were in the last truly blessed cohort, the pinnacle before the fall, that makes it insufferable that way. I think Emily St. John Mandel had a lecture about how the world is always ending she embedded in Sea of Tranquility

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Terry McGlynn's avatar Terry McGlynn @hormiga.bsky.social
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I've been dejectedly doomscrolling and freaking out and useless today and then I read this anti really helped. Thanks. (is it because I was subjected to all that Catholicism in my youth too?)

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Dag.'s avatar Dag. @3fecta.bsky.social
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Also them making you feel powerless when you not, is a feature not a bug of these authoritarian movements.

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WAP's avatar WAP @wetasspword.bsky.social
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It's not that I think it can't change or get better. It's that I think Americans are too soft and comfortable to do anything.

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Alice ⚧🇺🇦🔆's avatar Alice ⚧🇺🇦🔆 @alicesetassa.bsky.social
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There was once a time I fell under despair, it was all consuming and self fulfilling toxic thinking that eated me up from inside. It took years to get rid of but in the end I see it was one of the worst things I let to happen to myself. Now I know that I will never let that happen again.

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Perfect Orb 🍄's avatar Perfect Orb 🍄 @perfectorb.bsky.social
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Doomerism is the natural response to someone finally realizing that their “just world” never existed

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🍉🍍Bromez Addams🍍🍉's avatar 🍉🍍Bromez Addams🍍🍉 @bromezaddams.bsky.social
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I have a hard time enjoying small victories but that doesn't mean I have to say anything to crush other people's celebration or the hope those small pushes of progess give them. Definitely a thing I need to work on

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Kaitlin Ruiz's avatar Kaitlin Ruiz @kaitlinruiz.bsky.social
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you can call it a failure of imagination, or of hope. in many ways, they're the same thing. but you cannot call it rational, and you should not give it food.

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Karen Costa (she/her)'s avatar Karen Costa (she/her) @karencosta.bsky.social
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YES THANK YOU FOR SAYING THISSSSSSS

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Ged Teier's avatar Ged Teier @tedgeier.bsky.social
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The RealDems are the only ones saying the world cannot be otherwise lol.

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Sarah McLaughlin's avatar Sarah McLaughlin @sarahemclaugh.bsky.social
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100%—also heavily influenced by Catholic upbringing on this. Related: I can't remember how faithfully Denethor's story is rendered from the books but imo the LOTR films depict well the perils of despair with his character and how it only makes defeat certain. (And how the Palantir can't be trusted!)

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Your Honor, pls's avatar Your Honor, pls @mrmambo.bsky.social
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What. You mean presumption?

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mav's avatar mav @mav.wtf
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I've been trying to reckon with the difference between despair and depression for a long time. They feel identical, or one feeds the other, or something. It's not that I don't think things *could* get better, it's more like that's not historically accurate, or likely.

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Michael Kaplan 's avatar Michael Kaplan @differance.bsky.social
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Optimist: this is the best of all possible worlds Pessimist: yup

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Stori3d Past's avatar Stori3d Past @stori3dpast.bsky.social
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A dozen years ago I was cleaning beaches weekly, & thinking about hope vs despair.

theflotsamdiaries.blogspot.com/2011/12/hope...

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Morte Lemonade's avatar Morte Lemonade @mitchzaavo.bsky.social
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Ram Dass: “We live in the hells created by our reactivity - not by the things themselves, but how your mind works with it".

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Left Below's avatar Left Below @below-left.bsky.social
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Continental Philosophy provides a few non-Catholic bases for this too. You have the choice to live on and fight on despite everything, and this is *amplified* by the fact that there's no guarantee of any particular outcome, good or bad.

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Joel Pedersen's avatar Joel Pedersen @xxyxxy.bsky.social
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This is very well put, and just what I needed to hear.

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I feel like it's important to acknowledge that people can feel despairing or doomed for periods after bad events without being "doomers". I was despairing earlier. I'm feeling more stable now, and ready to continue and keep fighting. Not that this negates your post, just more as an addendum.

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Wood the Storyteller's avatar Wood the Storyteller @woodthestoryteller.bsky.social
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I needed to hear this, today. Thank you.

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Professor Furious's avatar Professor Furious @professorfurious.bsky.social
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It is, in Catholic estimation, a mortal sin IIRC

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David Atwell's avatar David Atwell @ilinamorato.bsky.social
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This is gonna take up some space in my brain for good now. "Despair asserts omniscience."

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P Santos's avatar P Santos @peas-and-toes.bsky.social
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I like "soft doomerism" that recognizes all the possibilities of good, but assesses that the odds aren't currently in their favor

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