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Michael Tae Sweeney@mtsw.bsky.social |
They're not gonna deport 20 million people. They're gonna deport the labor organizers, the guys who ask for raises, the guys who leave the pork processing plant to get a better job elsewhere. Our agriculture sector runs on immigrant labor and draconian immigration laws are about giving bosses power
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Doctor Memory
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I think for once I disagree. I’m sure that the bosses pulling the lever for Trump are thinking “he’s not actually gonna ruin me by deporting my entire workforce, he’s just gonna yank the troublemakers” but I think that’s deeply underestimating how serious the Miller and the vdare crowd are.
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@ramsandhoosiers.bsky.social
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No they’re gonna try to throw out everyone. They’re just try gonna to plug the hole with “national service” and child labor.
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Tugrim
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I think they might try, soon realizing they don't understand logistics or consequence, so pack them into "labor camps" to "save" business and economy. Many will die of disease, malnutrition, and revolt. Then, when others ask questions there will be some final solution to hide "incompetence".
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Adam Kotsko
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But what if they're such malignant idiots that they really mean what they say and will try to do it?
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Peter
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Well tfg did say it. I'll take tfg's deranged messages at face value tyvm
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Dan
@dwatson.bsky.social
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in md the eastern shore makes an annual exception to its general attitude on immigration and pleads for more foreign worker visas because apparently no citizen is willing to work all day picking crabs
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Stef @wikisteff@mastodon.social Christensen
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Thanks, Michael. I've been trying to figure out how to say this for weeks, and there are the words.
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Pearl River Flow
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this is what they do now, the chicken plants here have a rhythm, once there's a lawsuit or labor rumblings or wages go up, here comes ICE.
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yellojkt
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We only have an in illegal immigration problem because employers want us to.
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Thomas Neville
@goobermunch.bsky.social
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There’s a reason they’re working so hard to eliminate the Reconstruction amendments.
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@ajslater.bsky.social
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Selectively enforced laws like this dovetail nicely with speed limit discourse
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En Buen Ora
@enbuenora.bsky.social
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and also attack anyone they think is somehow a thorn in their side, and it'll be on the people being attacked to suffer the costs of fighting charges & proving they are not undocumented it's a vehicle for infinite attacks & harassment, with outright racism substituting for evidentiary cause
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Stephen Webb
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they can't have slavery, per se, but they *can* have indentured servitude
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Wrycke
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I think I disagree with you here. No doubt that is where things start out but I think they will give the crazies what they want - it will distract from the lack of policy. Page from the Jim Crow playbook
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Warhammerchick
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They will almost certainly come after trans ppl and political opponents at some point, because once you begin mass arrests, you can't just shut that machine off. It demands fresh victims every day.
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Julie - TrexPushups
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That seems optimistic. We have seen republicans torch state economies over hating immigrants before. Why wouldn't they do it nationally?
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Paul G.
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I think they’ll start there but to feed the fascist beast they’ll expand it very quickly.
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Man, I hate Illinois Nazis
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It's Cesar Chavez. They're going to deport everyone they think could become Cesar Chavez.
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David Kissling
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Stephen Miller actually wants to deport them all but will settle for going after the guys whose teenage daughters protest leftishly
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populuxe 🍃
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feel like “deport 20 million people” means “open season on anyone you think you can get away with terrorizing”
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Avi
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That’s the first line of the Niemoller poem but it keeps going. Stephen Miller isn’t proposing an evil but coldly rational program of calculated deportations, they want purges and ethnic cleansing
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Pyrholidon Enthusiast ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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The Nazis started with deportation too.
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potatolicious
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I disagree somewhat. I think that’s what party elites and donors want, the problem is that the true believers run the joint now, and they actually do want to deport/kill their perceived enemies. It’ll start as what you describe, but it’s a hair’s width from getting waaaaay worse.
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Jay Marose
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Ask Alabama how well squeezing the spent end of the economic tube goes. Crops rotted. They relented. Didn’t touch anyone up the chain. Except to award them fewer health, safety & child labor restrictions.
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Seth D. Michaels
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that said, they'll also bust up some neighborhoods and drag out some immigrants who are keeping a lower profile, just for the spectacle of it
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PonderStibbons
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The bosses aren’t going to have much power when there’s no labor and they suddenly have to pay people a living wage to pick strawberries. There’s no way the donor class will stand for this.
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Helen/Tina/Boob Punch
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Uh-huh. And Roe was settled law.
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Paul Crider
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There's always the possibility of converting them into forced labor. You round up undocumented immigrants (or people who look like they might be undocumented immigrants) and put them into camps, but then you implement work programs, for <insert justification>. Who's gonna stop them?
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Tommy
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It was the Nazi's initial stated plan to deport
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Brooke Binkowski
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And the "dissident Jews"
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Not Yet Post Democracy Joshua Vaughan
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Don’t fall into the, ‘They’re not actually’ trap with this group of people. Taking them at their word is correct, and of they didn’t do what they promised before it wasn’t for lack of trying, it was usually just because of clownish ineptitude, which we can’t count on forever.
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Roman
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100%
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