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southpaw@nycsouthpaw.bsky.social |
The president is himself forever immune from prosecution for crimes committed using his official power, and he can pardon anyone for helping him to commit federal crimes, explicitly including an actions in furtherance of a coup to illegally hold onto the office of the presidency. That’s the upshot.
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robeagle
@robeagle.bsky.social
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Welcome to Fascism. It started almost 250 years ago and the project is coming to its completion.
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Staid Winnow
@staidwinnow.bsky.social
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As president, one could order killed any opponent and then pardon the killers the next instant. Constitutionally, this was always kosher. I have been blocked on multiple platforms by multiple legal experts for asserting that the President is constitutionally above the law.
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Greg Greene
@greene.haus
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“a government of laws, not of men” (*raucous guffaws erupt*)
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catladie
@catladie.bsky.social
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Biden has four months to make this work to his advantage
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HBSteveB
@hbsteveb.bsky.social
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Trump has already pardoned criminals that helped him commit crimes in his 1st term. Imagine the pardons he’ll dole out in a 2nd term. If I were Biden I would be pardoning Hunter, Fauci, Garland, Smith, Merchan, etc right now.
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James Mackinnon
@jamackinn.bsky.social
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If the Vice President murders the President in the oval office and then pardons themself, is there any crime to charge?
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Flying Pace
@flyingpace.bsky.social
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Well, that's tyranny, so Biden needs to put down the judicial coup by, at a minimum, packing the Court and declaring it within the sphere of his official powers. Right?
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Mash
@fragment.city
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Here's a fun one - how can a military order be illegal when it exists in the US military chain of command?
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Harris 2024
@mackray.bsky.social
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Biden take Trump out now?
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Political Film Blog
@jgiambrone.bsky.social
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Gangster state comes out officially as protection racket.
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Joe
@twitskeptic.sirvin.com
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I guess Biden should now just dispense with a trial and immediately imprison Trump as "a threat to the nation".
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@waterworks.bsky.social
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So what is Biden waiting for?
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Blake Mitchell
@blake.bsky.social
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Would it be okay for the current president to order the assassination of the former guy? Just saying what everyone’s thinking.
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Karmageddon
@karmageddon.bsky.social
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Forgive my cluelessness here, but if a president is not immune from prosecution for criminal *unofficial* acts, will the courts need to parse out what official and unofficial acts are? I mean, will the Trump team be able to parse their way out of the Jan 6 and documents cases?
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Mykael Wyvern — 🔮🧙🏻♂️🐉
@wyvern.bsky.social
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Oh hey, even if there is a prosecutionable offense, he can use his absolute "core constitutional duties" to pardon himself with no recourse.
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the mjl (michael j leblanc)
@themjl.bsky.social
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oh, and SCOTUS gets to determine what is 'absolute' and what is 'presumptive', so (in practice) only GOP Presidents get the immunity. They threaded that needle PERFECTLY. "Not a Democracy?" Shit, this isn't even a REPUBLIC anymore...
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Dave Shramek
@dshramek.bsky.social
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Since there really is only one remedy for removing someone from a lifetime appointment, it seems like folly to declare that the president ordering your assassination is legal, but I don't make the rules.
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crucialwax
@crucialwax.com
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But would he pardon? Are you sure.
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@shortstack122.bsky.social
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Biden now has the opportunity to do the funniest thing possible....
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Donna L
@donnalfromny.bsky.social
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Our country is effed
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@shadysullivan.bsky.social
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Why couldn’t anyone be immune from crimes committed in the process of performing their job?
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Mike B
@madhominem.bsky.social
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the media: "Well let's see how this affects the polling!"
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Kai
@kaikronfield.bsky.social
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kinda sounds like that's the ballgame right there
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@cateatdog.bsky.social
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If Biden isn't willing to stay in office and dismiss an election loss, he should step down.
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FatRaccoon 🦝🎈
@fatraccoon.bsky.social
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So the current president could send Agent Orange to Guantanamo Bay, as an "official act"? Hmmm......
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Third Summers Brother
@hugetinymistake.bsky.social
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The *Republican president
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Baba,Gido "supported the current thing" too!
@grmammatam55.bsky.social
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Then Biden has this "immunity" right now as the current sitting president, does he have the power to do anything? Cancel the election?
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💉💉💉Kumara📎Republic↙️↙️↙️
@kumararepublic.bsky.social
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Sky Blue RN
@skybluern.bsky.social
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How many secret pardons will begin to reveal themselves now that they are immune from the m scrutiny?
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Huly
@huly.bsky.social
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Well I see, is Operation Orange Death on its way yet?
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El Al-Killjoy
@capitalcrimes.bsky.social
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I would like to see Joe do some "official acts" May I suggest an airstrike?
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Saxxon Fox
@saxxon.bsky.social
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The courts really did rule the president could 'official act' anyone they wanted so long as they can relate it to policy, huh
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Tortilla the Hun
@midnitet0ker.bsky.social
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I'm reading this and wondering when the hell I moved into this shithole country with senile geezers and madpeople chaining themselves to the levers of power while we all watch helplessly.
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