It is bewildering to see how universities are reacting to student protest. Students have always protested! This is not at all new! I’d love to know what college parents think about all this.
I protested to divest from South Africa with Obama at Occidental. (And many other various demonstrations through adulthood)
One kid at UCI which seems to be handling it calmly enough- a small encampment
I’m glad I’m not paying tuition to an institution to arrest protesters & would be PISSED
Parent of HS junior and it's weird as hell to factor all this into college decisions. "Ok, they have your major, you liked the college tour, now how likely are they to call in the cops in riot gear on you?"
I went to Columbia late 80s & when I toured the campus there were shanties here & there to protest apartheid. They were just part of the scenery.
Getting the NYPD this time seemed a complete overreaction.
I just graduated and I'm like if they want to toss away the degree and keep the 80k in debt that strikes me as pretty dumb.
They're sacrificing their future for BDS which is a really suss cause and they will NEVER thank them or repay them.
That group is parasitical and just takes never gives.
My Dad was on the Kent State campus that day. He wasn’t a protester. It still took him hours to get home. My older brother remembers. I was born 18 months later. I think that the kids are all right and need to speak. So does my brother.
I was too horrified to stay on my kid's college's Facebook page for parents (🚁), but I hear that there's a lot of demands for more control and punishment.
One Barnard College parent I spoke with this morning whose daughter is a double major laid it all out: she needs to finish her papers yet wants to be out protesting. Her mother wants her to graduate, especially as in 2020 due to COVID she had no high school graduation. Fortunately Barnard will /1
I don’t think they’ve protested with such denigration toward the other side of this conflict, especially considering Oct. 7. And taking over buildings. I dont remember a student protest where that happened.
I'm pretty horrified at how the racism directed against these students has been excused and ignored and enraged by the attacks against them.
I feel like I live in a country that truly hates its young people.
Mine is at the Sorbonne. Even in Paris, where protests happen constantly and that inconvenience is generally tolerated, they are cracking down on protesting students.
Dissention is key to a healthy free society and I’m proud of these kids. It’s their right to take a swing at the the power structure… which seems not to work well for them, to be honest.
I think they should leave the damned kids alone. It doesn’t become a problem until the admins call in the cops and escalate shit. My kid has been on the ground there and she said it was entirely peaceful until the cops showed up.
I have 2 in college, one a senior. Luckily neither school in the news (one small liberal arts, one big uni). I would be proud if they protested, and BS if their school went the stormtrooper route. Would be RAGING if they cancelled grad-they had no HS grad due to govt incompetence/Dump in 2020
Most charitable thing I've read was Chronicle of Higher Ed on why encampments scare college presidents, noting encampments are different than marches or more contained (time&space) situations, also how outside made it harder to control that it was only students (not saying any of this excuses...)
It's wild reading how they're reacting to student protests, when just a few weeks ago my parents showed me around their old uni in my home country and telling stories of fascist surveillance and oppression. Of students fighting against it. And the revolution they experienced while there.
Right??
I can think of scores of historically important campus protests without half-trying...
No, it makes no sense.
But the First Amendment does constantly require defenders.
It’s fodder for the agendas of various political actors. Both w axes to grind & ulterior motives.
And both political parties want to shift the discourse away from what the protests against the Gaza war aim to accomplish.
I'm a staff member on a college campus. There have been no disturbances on this campus as far as I know, but I'm I'm haunted and disgusted that colleges are calling the cops to beat their students for protesting. Who would send their kids to that school next year?
I am a parent of a student at Bard. She would definitely be involved in this but Bard apparently already divested. Concerned that she will go to Columbia and keeping in contact with her in case of that. If she does, I will join her.
What I hear most frequently (I live in a pretty conservative place). It’s a stupid rich kid stunt. If they don’t want a college education, kick ‘em out and let someone who wants to go to class have their spot. Parents may not like the police response, but there’s little sympathy here for protestors.
CalPoly Humboldt: our kid didn’t protest but was very caught up in & stressed out by it. Proud and supportive, but expect it’ll hit grades.
Uni resolved w/dystopian riot police raid in the dark @4am. No injuries❤️ but traumatic! We want CPH to succeed, wonder what enrollment impact will be 🙁
My kid is a graduating senior at one of the schools, and the fear among many parents is a canceled graduation. This is the high school class of 2020, and graduation PTSD is real for us. I don’t worry about what the protesters might do, only that they’ll be blamed for bad administration decisions.
I’m a mom of a Canadian college student and my heart breaks for those kids. How ANYONE could look at a bunch of kids in tents and think “better call the riot police” is unfathomable to me.
I learned about "Town and Gown" wars while researching a D20 cities book I was really proud of, but the 3.x collapse hit and it was never published. :(
I'm hoping some of the wealthier ones go after the college with civil suits. Colleges only understand one thing, and until that happens, this will get much worse.
I’m old, but first-generation college grad, had middle class parents who struggled to pay tuition. They would not have been happy with me protesting, getting arrested, no matter what the issue. But things are probably different today.
I’m a Syracuse parent and also live in a college town—Davis, Ca—where university police famously pepper sprayed students encamped on the quad during the 2011 Occupy protests. I fully support student protests but the Syracuse parent chat is mostly filled with parents who don’t.
It’s disturbing. But it comes from the notion that everyone should feel safe & included on campus.
Of course there’s no reason people can’t criticize Israel. The problem is that Israel criticism attracts antisemitism like shit attracts flies. And handling that then becomes exceedingly challenging.
My daughter is a junior at UNCG and they haven’t had any recent large protests on campus, when they have in the past I wasn’t ever worried about her safety. I’m glad she’s not at UNC. IMO responding to student protests with arrests and suspensions is disgusting, unethical, stupid, cowardly.
I mean, when I was at San Francisco State, there was a protest every week. That was in the early 1990s. And then, of course, we shut everything down when the Rodney King verdict was announced.
The police violently shut down a peaceful protest at my daughter’s school last night, Virginia Commonwealth U, a public univ. Her friends were pepper sprayed and tear gassed. I’m outraged. About every campus where this is happening. It’s so stupid and unnecessary.
And btw there have always been “outside agitators” (see the Civil Rights movement, the anti Vietnam War movement) but it takes away nothing from the mass of protesters who are outraged by the plight of Palestinians in their own homeland.
Why is it bewildering? Students have always protested, & people have always overreacted. It's the same goddamn thing every time, & no one ever learns.
A majority of Americans thought the kids at Kent State had it coming! I would be shocked if they don't end up killing kids this time too.
It's about the money and power. Universities operate like corporations. The demands for divestment are one of the few that threaten them where it hurts: donors, contracts, and the interests of the board members. Parents need to stop thinking that these are educational institutions. They aren't.
I told my son to let me know in advance if he planned to protest so I could lawyer up. And also that I'd be happy to come and protest with him as a middle-aged meat shield.
My kids graduated in the last few years. I protested in the early 80s when at university, nuclear disarmament, and Take Back the Night marches. I can't believe they seem so surprised.