Gen Z doesn't know what it was like when everything smelled like cigarettes no matter where you went because half of people older than 15 in the western world chainsmoked indoors and even non-smokers had the scent permeated into our clothing, hair, furniture, and even the walls of every building.
I, of the OR trail gen, am currently living in Spain and I am constantly reminded how far we have come in the US in terms of public smoking laws. My 7yo was shocked when I told her this is how home used to be.
It was so disgusting and everyone acted like it was normal. I used to play in bands so sent a lot of time in smokey venues, the smell would stay in my hair even after I washed it.
Still remember the time where it died out and restaurant and bar owners were afraid of guests leaving out. Nowadays it feels so much comfortable to go somewhere because most of the time you don't have to smell that shit of cigarette smoke.
I’m old enough to remember when we would ask patients at the hospital if they wanted a smoking or no-smoking room, and nurses smoked at the nurses station. Even though I lived during that time, it still blows my mind when I think about it.
I was maybe 10-12 when indoor smoking bans started being widespread, so I have plenty of memories at restaurants with smoking sections. Sometimes the bathrooms were in the smoking section which meant I was forced to walk through that shit as a child just to pee.
As a millennial (‘88), it was amazing to watch smoking die out indoors pretty quickly in my childhood. There’s this brief memory of restaurants smelling like shit, and then…not.
I remember going to concerts and coming home covered in cigarette smoke residue. It wasn’t just that my clothes reeked of it. I needed to shower to clean the film off my skin.
It was freaking awful…I had to take my clothes off in another room from my bedroom because of the stink of smoke. Hair would hold the smell which would transfer to the pillow…
My mom had a terminal lung condition and continued to smoke until the end. I can't walk past someone who smells like smoke now without feeling a bit queasy. The grip smoking has on some people is quite phenomenal.
it also leaves a layer of like... scum all over records? y'gotta be careful with old ones in case the previous owners smoked 2 packs a day cause it'll gum up your stylus like nothin
I didn’t drink at the beginning of college, and I used to wake up the day after going to a show feeling exactly as bad as I would later from drinking too much, just from everyone else’s smoking
Just old enough to experience the tail of end of this and stuff smelling like smoke gives me a bit of Proustian nostalgia when I encounter it
Not that I’d ever want to go back
I remember the smoking section joke.
"Smoking section" - no partition, no wall, let alone a separate room. Just... this is where the smoking section ends. Here, let us seat you next to it. Yes, the dude sitting right next to you is in the smoking section...
IN A PLANE. AN ENCLOSED TUBE.
My mother worked as a stylist in hair salons her whole career. She never smoked.
She had a 1-stall shop built in our house bc she worked in a salon w 15 other stylists and she was the only one who didn’t smoke.
Imagine getting your hair done there.
Fleamarkets, thrift stores and old peoples houses just smelled like marlbros and bleach. Idk why anyone thought bleach would get the smell out. All it did was double the noxious fumes. My grandma even showed me how to clean the house with bleach. After which she started chain smoking virginia slims.
Recently I bought an old book which was previously owned by a heavy smoker. I can't read it. The whole flat gets this smell, the fingers, everything.
I was not a chain smoker then, only one package per day...
We (Xennials) traveled in Europe with kids (8 and 11) this summer and they were *shocked* at seeing ubiquitous smoking. Couldn’t fathom that it was probably more common in the US when we were that age. Brought home how much has changed.
I'm glad of smoking bans. Prior to it, I'd go to a restaurant and would have to go through the smoking area at the front to get to the non-smoking area at the back. Absolutely vile smell
Yup.
I remember the recurring debate of whether to shower or not after an evening in a bar because I just reeked of the smell, despite never smoking.
What is it going to be tonight, Shower drunk or wake up stinking?
A while back someone had posted “what did the 1980’s smell like?” Since I was there, I replied, “cigarettes”, as with most of the 20th century, people smoked everywhere, and it seemed nearly everyone smoked.
OMG, I was gay AND an air traffic controller. In the 90s, we figured AIDS would take us long before lung cancer, so why not? Literally everyone gay smoked. And with the job? I mean, we were the last federal employees to not be allowed to smoke on duty, *on position*. There was no escape.
I was a smoker from 12 years old. I remember being able to smoke pretty much everywhere. EVERYTHING smelled of cigarette smoke. So many smokers lit the next cigarette from the one they had just finished. Everything was coated with a nasty, brown stickiness. Hard to imagine it now.
No one who hasn't been to a 1980's bingo hall knows anything of smoke. You got third hand smoke. You had to duck to find the exit. The smoke detectors had withdrawal symptoms by morning. You could write your name in the smoke. The air was physically harder to walk through.
When I was about 7 y/o, my GRANDMOTHER stuck a lit cigarette into the palm of my hand!
(I actually walked into it, but still...)
And yeah, the smell. OMG the smell.
Had purchased a used sofa and love seat in the late eighties from a friends mom. Got it home and set up and it reeked of cigarettes. Did everything I could to get rid of the smell. Never did! Let me ex keep it when I moved out lol
1) My mom used to smoke indoors. Chain smoking was here thing. She dropped the habit about 10 years ago after smoking for about 40 years.
2) Man, how about smoking sections on airplanes?
My first job at a Friendly’s restaurant, there was a cigarette machine in the corner by the restroom. My older sister would buy her Benson & Hedges there sometimes. She wouldn’t share her cigarettes with me, though—and thank goodness I never became a smoker! Quitting was hard for her.
At the local strip mall there's one car always parked in the lot, and in the summer the owner leaves the windows cracked and you can smell the cigarette smoke embedded in the upholstery from several yards away.
I haven’t been able to smell since I was eight years old, when I used to get really bad sinus infections until my parents quit smoking and I magically stopped getting them so much
My grandfather was a lifelong chain smoker and the walls of their home were yellow from the smoke & fumes. He was a fantastic Pop to us, but the smell of the place… 😵💫
i think about this a lot, im so glad i grow up in an era where the only time the air hurts my lungs is the yearly canadian wildfires that blow smoke across the continent, if i had to live in cigarette cities id probably retire to the mountains
It was disgusting. Non-smoking sections of planes were a joke-they were in the middle of 2 smoking sections. Kissing a smoker tasted like licking an ashtray. I remember more recently -2011 I was in eastern europe-I can't remember where & there was 1 tiny non-smoking section in a restaurant.
As a non-smoker I hated everything about it. This smell was just everywhere. and if you weren't able to shower after a party, the bed smelled like cigarettes the next day.🤢
American gen Z. Be sure, these from developing countries know. In fact, I'm so angry with our government (not US!! my native gov) that they do so little to curb tobacco problem, seeing how much was done here, in the US, and how awesome it is right now. 1998 was a WIN
I remember being in a club the week smoking inside was banned. Bc the venue had always had everything covered up by the smell of cigarettes the place stank of body odour bc their filtering was not prepared at all
The (nearly) worldwide move to ban smoking indoors throughout the 90s and 2000s was one of the most positive social developments, proof that lawmakers can effect meaningful change, and it continues to improve the health of everyone. I want to see more like this.
Just me, sitting in the back seat of an enclosed car while both parents smoked like chimneys.
I smelled so bad Hank Hill would yell “smell the meat not the heat” at me as I peddled past his house crying.
My kid was assigned to the same cafeteria my friends and I used in high school, and when I told them it was preferred by theater kids because it had the smoking courtyard, they were absolutely baffled. Yes, darling, the school designated a place for upperclassmen to smoke during lunch.
I remember (after I had quit) asking friends not to smoke when we were in a restaurant until after we had all finished eating. That was the worst, a smoker tonight next to you while you were trying to eat.
I'm unusual in my generation 'cos I never even tried to smoke, it came from growing up in a house where my grandmother smoked, my mother, my father (a pipe), my grand uncle, my aunts, my uncles, every visitor. Completely put me off ever even trying, I know, it's not what happens when it's so normal
Remember how awful bars smelled once they banned smoking? Bars were NOT ready to handle the stale beer and barf odors that the smoke had been covering up.
Smoking sections of planes (!) and smoking carriages on trains (!) as well as areas of restaurants designated for smoking (but smoke notoriously bad at sticking to the invisible boundaries!)
(Non-smoker here:) Banning cigarette smoking in public places led to the demise of pool halls. Being a billiards fan, I'm divided on the subject - but generally prefer breathing smoke-free air.
I wish as a country we could learn a social lesson from the tobacco success story and use the same strategy to address other deplorable personal behaviors that as a society we reject.
Which issue could you see the tobacco strategy working on and explain why.
Elder Gen-X, both parents were heavy smokers and I was allergic. My childhood was miserable for it. Both parents died of lung cancer. Smoking bans were the best thing that ever happened to me. I’d burn the industry to the ground if I could.
When I was middle school I remember the smoking area for high schoolers, since my bus would stop near it to let the HSers off and there'd be 30-40 of them smoking. Our school was one of the last in the country to take that out due to our county having a high number of tobacco farmers.
Preach it! Man, I still get nervy about going into pubs and bar despite the ban being in place for years here in Tasmania. Asthmatic me with a strong response to tobacco smoke -- that shit was an unavoidable horror while I was growing up. The world's a better place without it.
The big SF concert halls like the Warfield were just as smoky in the early 90s after the ban on smoking there.
But it was a health code ban, not a fire department ban,
and most of it wasn't that nasty tobacco stuff so it was ok.
It took me a long time to realize that most of the smell of cheap motels was stale cigarette smoke.
My MIL was a heavy smoker; we'd have to air out the suitcases after visiting her. One year she caught a cold, stopped smoking during it, didn't start again, and then moved, and it was much better.
Grew up in that and HATED it. Everything stunk and oh I was also sick all the time too. Everyone in my household was a heavy smoker and they were pretty selfish about it
There was a smell in older British hotels and inns when I was c.5yo, mostly in the corridors and lounge areas that I feel nostalgic about (and weirdly I can only remember for a fraction of a second) that was probably from a fine residue of different pipes and cigarettes in the carpets & wallpaper
The amount of times I'd get pulled aside in middle school/high school after a weekend with my Dad to be grilled about taking up smoking
It just clung to me. The smell permeates my dreams sometimes.
So millennials even remember this? I’m at the tail end of X and I really only remember it in my earlier childhood. Y the time I got to Highschool smoking was already rare.
Legit one of the best govt programs. Gives me hope that the US CAN do awesome things.
I burned out two belt sanders trying to get the nicotine off the walls and ceiling and door frames of the shitty house I bought. also didn't matter how drunk I got - prior to smoking bans I would SHOWER before bed and WASH my hair and body and clothes
Oh there are still pockets of the US where this is possible. If anyone needs a refresher (or introduction) I can refer them to an airport motel in Maine where I got so sick from the smell I threw up. And they claimed it was a “non-smoking” room. 🙄
The UK was well down the road in 1996 when I started working for a Swiss bank and everyone could smoke anywhere in their Zurich offices. By 2003, they only allowed smoking in the atrium. Not until 2011 had they banned it indoors.
Straight up sounds insane, like how does everyone from that era not have lung cancer? It kinda feels like if you were outside, you were inhaling smoke.
My mom smoked from the 80s into the early 2000s. Apparently my sister used to rip off the filters on my moms cigarettes to get her to stop. I distinctly remember one incident where I accidently drank from an old mountain dew bottle that was being used as an ash tray, my mom quit pretty soon after.
Fucked up bc I never smoked, and neither did anyone in my family. And yet I still get a lil weird ping of nostalgia when I smell cigarette smoke.
It was EVERYWHERE.
Getting rides from friends' parents whose car windows on the inside were covered in yellow tar film (but had the decency to not smoke when I was riding).
I’ve never smoked but my dad smoked most of his life; he only quit because I was about to have their first grandchild. I also worked in offices with smokers. It was horrible.
True story when I was in middle school I got a ride home from a friend's mom. I got in the car and she says my backpack and I reek of cigarettes and that I better not be making her son smoke. She didn't believe me when I said I didn't smoke but my mom does
Lucky old them. I remember telling my dad that they were going to smoking on public transport. He said why would they do that? And I said, they will save on cleaning costs.
A neighbor used to send my family home made cookies every xmas that we called Smoke Bombs because they were infused with cigarette smoke in the assembly process and you could taste it in the cookie.
After my grandmother died a few months back, my parents took a whole bunch of stuff home with them. Pretty much all of it smelled like cigarettes (as her and my two late uncles were all smokers, and so is my mom).
The only difference between the smoking and non-smoking section of a restaurant was that in smoking, everyone smoked while eating, and in non-smoking, people only smoked during dessert.