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Pavel@spavel.bsky.social |
Sorry children, we can't listen to the piece that forces listeners to become aware of the ambient noise, because of the ambient noise
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@redneckedhippie.bsky.social
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It's really a shame that John Cage is not around to comment on this.
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Austin Bradley
@datasense.bsky.social
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I really wish guys like John were just honest about their motivations for once. "This piece of music demands that we give attention to the world around us, rather than drown it out. I refuse to teach it because I would rather the world be drowned."
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Dodecahedron
@dodechedrononon.bsky.social
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"I wanted my work to be free of my own likes and dislikes, because I think music should be free of the feelings and ideas of the composer." - John Cage So not "listen to the birds outside".
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Nathaniel Downes
@downix.bsky.social
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Someone didn't understand the message of the song. Perhaps he should put on The Best of Marcel Marceao instead?
youtu.be/7WSrFeNFuCI?...
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Typical Arglebargle
@kmmichael.bsky.social
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Missing the point so entirely is almost remarkable.
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Don Bones
@donbones.bsky.social
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Beyond parody
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Anne Brady
@ronniebrady.bsky.social
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Irony in it's purest form.
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Cataleast
@cataleast.bsky.social
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Comes off either oddly elitist ("This isn't how this piece is meant to be experienced! The way I think it should is the only way!") or as someone with an ulterior motive grasping at straws.
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Slayground/Xipe KB
@slayground.bsky.social
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Imagine getting angry at college students for doing... Exactly what college students are supposed to. Protest and political discourse are part of the campus experience.
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Robert David Sullivan
@robertdsullivan.bsky.social
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4'33" was premiered in a presumably windowless concert hall instead of next to a political protest. Cage didn't understand his own work!
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Dr JB Pokemon (✨🦋✨)
@turnerjoy.bsky.social
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I think the actually use of the song was to piss off people when he “played it live”
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Dr. Rachel Schine
@rachelschine.bsky.social
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Sounds like a great practicum, he should’ve had them go out and listen intently to the protest 😅
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High-Fibonacci Diet
@motherflicker.bsky.social
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Who’s going to tell him about the meaning of the piece?
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braak
@braak.bsky.social
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"Does the piece require you to become aware of the sounds of the world around you? Yes. But I don't want you to be aware of some of those things! Instead we will listen to John Phillips Sousa."
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Megan Lavengood
@meganlavengood.com
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Why is he teaching a music course
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Patrick
@pck.rocks
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This dude is actually as dumb as Republicans pretend all professors are.
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David Menestres
@abstracttruth.bsky.social
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Lol. Who is this loser?
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Fibonacci Sequins
@brentwaggoner.bsky.social
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If he'd given this even four minutes and thirty three seconds thought...
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Diogenes "RealFeel" Jenkins
@windowsitter.bsky.social
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Of all possible complaints in the universe, not being able to listen to 4'33 is maybe the funniest
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Flakey Foont
@flakyfoont.bsky.social
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John Cage also had a piece performed as a solo or ensemble for 1-8 performers, each at one radio tuning to different frequencies for 45 minutes. That wouldn't work here either.
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@bugsnoffer.bsky.social
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Wonder if he could imagine the ambient noise in Gaza
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Goldstein the Hon
@goldstein.bsky.social
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Simultaneously missing the point of the piece and demonstrating its artistic merit in one single move. A real masterstroke of pedagogy.
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Einst1
@einst1.bsky.social
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What is it with these linguists?
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Think. It. Through. 🙅♂️
@cfaller96.bsky.social
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“…we couldn’t listen…” Yeah man, right there, those words should have brought you up short and forced you to ask yourself some awkward questions.
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El Topo
@eltopo71.bsky.social
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Having your self-own published in the New York Times must feel priceless.
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El Topo
@eltopo71.bsky.social
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It's nice that he went through the effort of writing an op-ed just to have this glorious mid-week self-own.
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We're Skroob
@pseudonymble.bsky.social
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As we all know, John Cage only found relevance in peaceful, bucolic sounds.
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Norma Jane
@normajane.bsky.social
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Ambient noise? Or tinnitus? I have that composition in my ears almost 24/7.
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winter warburton
@winty.live
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Coming from someone who earned a liberal arts degree in music and spent a whole unit learning about John Cage, whoever was the prof here is a real loser.
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Blame Tag 🏷️
@blametag.bsky.social
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If there is a better piece that symbolizes the idea of ignoring the world's problems in order to maintain the status quo I'd like to see it except in that it doesn't exist.
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Evo Daily
@evodaily.bsky.social
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🎶Stop hey what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin down.🎶
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Evo Daily
@evodaily.bsky.social
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Exactly. It's the point of that particular piece. If that is the "almost continuous" back ground noise it could in fact mean it's important after all.
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SmashedNSinking
@smashednsinking.bsky.social
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Lui Kang Wins!
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Tagger
@tgscenic.bsky.social
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He shouldn't be teaching that if he doesn't understand it to begin with. Audio Grooming
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将軍
@extremelyfucking.fun
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this columbia university must be gooood
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Polar Storm
@polarstorm.bsky.social
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Not the correct ambient noise.
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BamBub
@donbambo.bsky.social
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First they pick the worst piece of "music" and then they don't even get the point of it.
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Charlie
@charliemb.bsky.social
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A perfect Joseph Heller moment.
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Ben Helford
@benzored.bsky.social
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Conservatives: We need more conservatives in academia! Actual conservatives in academia: The song that's about ambient noise is only about specific ambient noises.
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Jenny Hayes
@jennyhayes.bsky.social
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Way to miss the point!!
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Sam W
@samiw.bsky.social
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The piece that wants you to stop and listen to what others are saying cannot be listened to. Otherwise, you would stop and listen to what the protesters are saying. Peak cognitive dissonance there. Have people forgotten that the entire point of protest is to be disruptive and difficult to ignore?!
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Julia S.
@booktweeting.bsky.social
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John Cage, famously apolitical composer who encouraged people to perceive his work in isolation from the historical moment
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Brian Smith
@theactualbrian.bsky.social
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You know, for what it's worth, I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down.
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HPAlpha
@hpalpha.bsky.social
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Good to hear the protesters are getting people's attention at least :v
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Francesco Caporusso
@czesco.bsky.social
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I used to listen to a podcast and this guy took over as host. He is insufferable to listen to. I feel bad for anyone who has to take his classes.
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E-
@elysianhell.bsky.social
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No one in the history of humanity has had the meaning of a piece of art fly so above their head the international space station was threatened by their stupidity.
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Timid Tanuki
@timidtanuki.bsky.social
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The absolute gall to publish this, as if the inability to listen to a piece of music once is somehow worse than protesting a genocide that will keep tens of thousands from ever listening to music again...
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Tony Corsentino
@notalegalrecord.net
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It’s right there in Cage’s score: “Birds, or people walking by in the hallway, are acceptable performance conditions, but angry chanting sounds are not”
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Chris in SF
@chrismsf.bsky.social
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“This works to well, therefore we must not teach it”
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