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Dave Weigel

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Just remarkable how "old person won't retire" has driven history for the last 15 years. Kennedy not resigning after brain cancer diagnosis -> Scott Brown Feinstein staying on past prime and bungling hearings -> Kavanaugh/Barrett RBG Biden

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Silly B Man's avatar Silly B Man @lawnerd.bsky.social
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Biden DID step aside in 2016. But then Hillary ran and lost an election gillibrand would have won handily.

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Jason Parton's avatar Jason Parton @jasongrvin.bsky.social
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I recently learned that Feinstein, back in the 70s, didn't want young people on the SF City Council, and she asked for people to pledge allegiance to her before she'd give them positions.

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One of these is not like the others, no matter how badly you wish it to be.

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Ciarán's avatar Ciarán @ciaran84.bsky.social
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McConnell. On camera.

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Roger Ailes's avatar Roger Ailes @rogerailes.bsky.social
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Thomas Friedman. Maureen Dowd. Donald Trump.

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Mike Dawson's avatar Mike Dawson @mikedawson.bsky.social
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All those people could’ve enjoyed such comfortable high quality retirements as well. I’d love to have one as cush as theirs lined up for me. Why the deranged need to keep working up until the very end?

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Steve M.'s avatar Steve M. @stevemnomoremister.bsky.social
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The exception is Reagan finishing his second term despite dementia. Bush won anyway. And it's not always age: Clinton staying on after the Lewinsky scandal broke probably doomed Gore.

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Leshij's avatar Leshij @leshij.bsky.social
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The world if RBG retired in 2009 and O'Connor refused to ever retire:

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bsdtectr's avatar bsdtectr @bsdtectr.bsky.social
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Even Pelosi, Hoyer and Clyburn are still around even as they’re not in the top jobs. Some people just can’t see themselves leaving the big stage for whatever reason.

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For the most part, it wasn't just "old person" but "old liberal politician with a lot of power" and nobody even tried to use checks and balances to replace them, the way it should work.

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Joe Biden is and always has been a stubborn cuss. Perhaps the best solution for the Democrats would be to coerce Kamala Harris to step aside as VP candidate then appointing Gavin Newsom as the VP and have him take the lead all campaign efforts?
www.ngrippel.com/ngr-politics...

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Jim Corrigan's avatar Jim Corrigan @jimcorrigan.bsky.social
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Sorry I shouldn't reply twice, but one thing I keep thinking is that it might be worse for the republic if Trump beat Harris in November.

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Jim Corrigan's avatar Jim Corrigan @jimcorrigan.bsky.social
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Rehnquist before that.

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Very Ambivalent Very Ricky's avatar Very Ambivalent Very Ricky @ambivalentricky.bsky.social
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There's research on this. Relinquishing a position of responsibility can actually cause rapid psychological and physical decline, and it's worse the greater the power the person is giving up. When wielding power is the central focus of your life you *especially* don't give it up when you're rly old.

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Matthew B's avatar Matthew B @bikeguy.bsky.social
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Just wait until the boomers get there!

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Lezurko 's avatar Lezurko @lezurko.bsky.social
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Past 15 years? Try just about all of human history. You can't fix being human. That is why the study of history, while fascinating (I have a history degree) is almost worthless.

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Ersatz Haderach's avatar Ersatz Haderach @striderhlc.bsky.social
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@spacetwinks.bsky.social has been on this beat for years!

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lowtax speedrun enjoyer's avatar lowtax speedrun enjoyer @rickywlmsbong.bsky.social
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i mean i think they get kav and acb anyway

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Walter IV's avatar Walter IV @walteriv.bsky.social
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I’ll be voting on policy rather than performance.

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The Almighty Tallest 's avatar The Almighty Tallest @spooknine.bsky.social
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Democratic elder politicians be like

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M. G. Daskivich's avatar M. G. Daskivich @daskivich.bsky.social
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Scalia as well, for the way his death affected 2016 electoral strategy.

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H. Owlett's avatar H. Owlett @hedwigowlett.bsky.social
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Those old persons you're talking about - greed keeps them "working". I was thinking about those old persons who are cashiers, restaurant servers, etc. They look pretty ripe for retirement, yet they keep working. I know it's not greed.

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Chalin's avatar Chalin @chalin.bsky.social
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That’s why the Greeks considered hubris the highest sin - you take everyone else down with you.

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RNtropy's avatar RNtropy @rntropy.bsky.social
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Maybe this is just projection, but ISTM this is also the case for a lot of people in their personal and work lives as well. I've worked for several orgs where people in leadership roles well past their prime refused to retire to the detriment of the organizational stakeholders.

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You forgot Reagan. You know, the one with dementia.

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Dr Legume's avatar Dr Legume @goodnightnobody.bsky.social
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not true for every case you listed but seems there is a newish dynamic where teams sequester their demented boss to instrumentalize them for their own careerism AND get them to frontrun some of the dirtier work of empire.

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