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b-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie.bsky.social |
a useful exercise is to ask how the political press would be framing the election if the positions were reversed, meaning, if Trump were an incumbent presiding over a strong economy wielding a powerful campaign apparatus and Biden was the shambolic challenger on trial for multiple criminal offenses
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Matt Swift
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Trump would be leading by +20 and we’d be reading think pieces about what mountain top we were going to carve into an image of his face.
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Carcinization Station
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I legitimately can't even imagine it. It's just outside the boundaries of my imagination at this point.
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Mike Boylan-Kolchin
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It’s going to lead to increased cognitive dissonance for many Rs if Trump loses — even more than Romney in 2012 and Trump in 2020 — which means there’s a much higher chance for a backlash / different and more virulent election denialism.
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Apprehensive Pie 😅🥧
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it's a useful exercise for most media narratives. imagine if the Uyghurs revolted, up to and including terrorist acts. presumably the framing would be the mirror imagine of israel-palestine. hard to imagine pro-uyghur campus protests being steamrolled to the same extent.
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MTC
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They would probably be sympathetic to Biden, because they want a horse race and in that case Biden would be the one needing propping up
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The Birdman of Silverlake 🦜
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The key thing to remember is that *most* people (press included) have no idea what a strong economy is or looks like / most don’t understand what the key measures are.
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Graeme Edgeler
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That's not the positions reversed unless Biden was also a former President.
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Carl AF
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Arkenor
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Press coverage seems to mostly depend on who the billionaire class likes, and who has the most terrifying cultist followers.
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Stefan Sasse
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The dynamic should by all rights resemble 1996, or even 1984/1972.
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@ericforest.bsky.social
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You can see a shadow of it in the 2012 election. Romney was terrible candidate who made unbelievable gaffs (47%, dog torture) and the press was so in his corner everyone was shocked when he lost.
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b-boy bouiebaisse
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how would the press treat biden’s polling lead in that situation? how would it treat trump’s polling weakness? assume also in this scenario that republicans are the ones with the down ballot strength
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Tottenham HotChicken in these streets
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So long as editorial guidance is driven in party by clicks, TFG would always get roped-in coverage. That said, the 4th Estate loves themselves a horserace 🤔
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Neil Stenhouse
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Joe Kahn would still be saying “look, we can cover Trump favorably or we can be Pravda. Two choices”
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costrike
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"This is fine."
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Jeepmore77.bsky.social
@jeepmore77.bsky.social
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Trump is the image of a Cult ( He could not run any big enterprise by himself )
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SundayStyle
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There is a clear agenda. The lesson of 2016 and the narrowness of Biden's victory in 2020 would clearly show a neutral press Trump didn't need their thumbs on the scale
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Ethan Jacobs 🇺🇦
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I’d be interested to see how the NYT would cover Judge Cannon jailing Biden pending trial on the grounds that he could flee to Ukraine.
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William Adler
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Trump's entire political career can be framed this way: what if Biden had to pay hundreds of millions to a woman he raped? What if Obama had said "Biden can win the election, if he has the courage" after HRC's loss? etc etc
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patrick
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Trump would be driving the coverage by making daily statements about his soon-to-be convicted-felon opponent and what a nasty human being he is. Massive banner headlines would announce Biden's guilt daily merely by quoting Trump.
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Rick does Math and Stuff
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The fact that Trump still gets more favorable polling on "the economy" than Biden just shows what a dismal failure our national media are. Trump gave us the worst recession in 40 years. Biden got us out of it. But because a quick recovery entails moderate inflation, they hammered away...
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Rick does Math and Stuff
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Let's go over how they've behaved in the past: - Al Gore was destroyed for making phone calls on his cell phone from his office - John Kerry had his actual service in Vietnam maligned while W's service in the National Guard was elevated - Hillary was destroyed for using her own email server...
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Same Great aroma, more Real, buttery flavor
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An even more useful exercise would be to ask Democrats to honestly confront the question of why Trump is contending at all considering how ridiculous he is. Yes, the political press sucks *very* much, but the more fundamental problem is Dems' denial re themselves - a better press won't solve that.
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Ceejopolis
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Seems like they would be covering it exactly as they are right now, by which I mean they say Trump can do no wrong and Biden can do no right.
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Chris G.
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If (big "IF") trump gets convicted in NY, the press will be so amused by a felon being the candidate, they'll glorify it. They'll spin it so it's a good thing. We've heard about him for every day of Biden's term. They can't let him go.
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Jen in Motion
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He'd be under 40% and we'd be looking at a 60+ GOP Senate.
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@barb99.bsky.social
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Did Nikki Haley really endorse him? Are there no more Liz Chaneys left?
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Clever Handle Here dba Todd Kehoe
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“Biden old AND on trial!!!!!!!1!!!” I do wonder: how bad would polling have to get for Biden for the press to change course and treat Trump like a favorite (i.e. bring him down to help the horse race). Be funny if that was the trigger for fair-ish coverage.
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Clsn
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*extremely media voice* W-why man it would look exactly the same! The horses race, we merely observe their running.
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Steve Watts
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I think part of this is the press is genuinely confused how a shambolic challenger on trial for multiple criminal offenses is effectively tied or leading, so they're grasping at explanations.
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Kitty Vons
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Come on everyone in the tri state area knew he was a joke in the 80s. A good PR campaign turned a third of them into Trump voters. (Look squirrel gif)
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Revan McCallister
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I believe that democratic voters wouldn't be voting for Biden if was on trial for multiple criminal offenses at the state and federal level. Someone else would have won the primary. Our political press would still be framing it as though Biden was in charge, and running it as a witch hunt.
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