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b-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie.bsky.social |
the poor quality of reasoning and argumentation here is actually remarkable to witness. you can certainly make the argument that kendrick lamar is referencing the "colonizer" charge used to attack israel and israelis, but you have to *make the argument*.
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Publius Maximus (He/Him)
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As I recall, Lamar spent a couple lines before talking about how Drake keeps going to Atlanta to improve his own cred. That's the context of "colonizer".
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Coriolus Nimrod
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I don't know if I want to be that guy, but saying that because Drake is Jewish everything negative that anyone says about him is about the Jews feels... Kinda antisemitic? Like, you are the one making it all about the Jews here.
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it's gita time
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More than anything else I’m astounded by what a poor and unconvincing thinker he is. He gets shit published that would have been laughed out of the hallowed halls of video game journalism website Kotaku
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19th century wife guy
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Isn't this the exact kind of social justice inflected brainrot that people like TCW spend 95% of their time complaining about? "Drake's mom is Jewish and it's always mean to call Jewish people colonizers."
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Ned
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Just doing what he’s paid to do really. Stretch the meanings and implications of things as far as they will go in order to make sorrowful and ultimately meaningless pronouncements about words that weren’t really said.
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Buchman
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Is this the guy who's wife was supposed to interview a model and took it over after she was already at their house?
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Tony Shalhoubuitton
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Oh my god we’re going to reach ‘Kendrick is Hamas’ discourse aren’t we??
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Charlee
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Did they mention the chiropractor bill they had to pay after reaching that hard? I hate when cultural stuff breaks containment
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rogergathmann
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It is hard to read that and not remember that Thomas Chatterton was a misunderstood 18th century poet who did not deserve to have his name dragged around by some BariWeiss befriending mook. Chatterton, the original, is most def on Kendrick Lamar's side.
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@mcdaragh.bsky.social
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Jeffrey Goldberg enlisting others in his proud tradition of pointing at things and calling them anti-Semitism.
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Joberama
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Yeahhhh, that argument needs to be shaved with Occam's Razor at the very least. Detailed genealogical records are in no way required to properly parse Lamar's lyrics. Stretch Armstrong couldn't reach that far.
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Jarz
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Aside from the stuff you raised, there's a huge set of assumptions. Not least of which is the assumption that Jewish people are pro-Israel and that coloniser is used as a pejorative directed at Jewish people and not, y'know, a political category to describe settler colonial zionism.
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b-boy bouiebaisse
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instead, we have guilt by word association followed by a conclusion that assumes its own premises, which is that kendrick is representative of a progressive political tendency.
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Mash
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But it's hard not to remember the issue of Israel. He TRIED, dammit!
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Andrew Barker
@barkerrant.bsky.social
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“You can make that argument, but you have to actually make that argument” is a perfect rebuttal to…so much.
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Tom Scocca
@tomscocca.bsky.social
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Seems as if he’s making guesses about the meaning of a conversation he hadn’t previously been listening to…
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Deltron Zero
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He's a Canadian colonizing American Black shit, that should be obvious to anyone with a little awareness. But, alas....
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Daniel Brody
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I’m just hoping this doesn’t give Drake any ideas about rehabbing his reputation through a new audience with a new right wing persona if he feels like he ran out of other options after this beef defeat
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Microplastics Sommelier
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chet hanks has a stronger handle on this than he does
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Ceejopolis
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This is one of those occasions where I wish bluesky blocking was not quite so nuclear so I could find it what this was about.
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Ethan “κακοθερής” Harfenist
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That post is for sure a reach, but this beef kinda always seemed to be heading in this direction given Kendrick’s affinity for the Black Hebrew Israelites and the kind of shots he was taking at Drake. (I think Drake is a creep btw and I don’t want this to be read as a defense of him, either.)
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C.A. Benowitz-Fredericks
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I don't know if I've ever known of anyone who can be less trusted around rap.
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Spirit Equality
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It’s pretty clear the colonizer charge is more attuned to Drake exploiting Black labor than anything to do with Israel wtf did they even listen to the lyrics
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Green Thumb Girl
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RAPPERS??? no offense I am not sure even the people running the labels went to college drugs sex music and one more about good old days in Compton oh "bitch hoe" tear them down got a new hit here! *money rolls in*
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Premonitions
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This wasn’t my initial read of the line, in my head he was equating Drake with those who would have owned slaves (given the placement and context in the song) but also, KDot is well known for double/triple entendres. As a pasty white man though it’s for sure not my argument to make.
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GoodGuy Morn
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Ah yes, the foundational work of progressive politics "not like us" by Kendrick Lamar
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Reallysarah
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How can I make this rap beef relevant to my corporate overlords? I know, I’ll tie it to Israel (scribbles “Drake Mom - colonizer - anti-semitism?” in notebook)
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