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to add a little more here, it is not that economic anxiety is fake, it is that it cannot be neatly disentangled from racial anxieties. for instance, if you are doing well but see black people doing better, you may feel anxious on account of your internalized idea of what the racial order should be.

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Carter Kalchik's avatar Carter Kalchik @carterkalchik.bsky.social
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I’m sure rural whites were thrilled to see Claudine Gay taken down for exactly this reason. An even more insidious thing is that this status anxiety isn’t just triggered by seeing people of color being better off, but simply advancing at all. Any perceived change in the racial hierarchy.

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Joel Pelletier 🍩's avatar Joel Pelletier 🍩 @joelpelletier.bsky.social
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It’s like Southern State governors refusing free Federal money for children because it might go to “those people.” American Racism is a stubborn thing.🤦🏻

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Andy Pearlman's avatar Andy Pearlman @apearlma.bsky.social
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And I think the internet gives people the ability to easily see people elsewhere doing better than oneself.

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Joseph Yaroch's avatar Joseph Yaroch @jcyaroch.bsky.social
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Economic anxiety is about more than the current conditions. It is as much, or more, about expected future conditions: job security, housing security, and health security. On a more subtle level, it's also about the security of one's identity.

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Martin Schneider's avatar Martin Schneider @wovenstrap.bsky.social
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People, look up busing in Boston or the Feds vs. the Black Panthers. Black Power Mixtape is a good resource for this. The Supreme Court said classrooms must be mixed-race and the white reaction, largely, was to subvert cities, health care, education, welfare in order to work around that ruling.

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Redir's avatar Redir @red1r.bsky.social
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What is interesting to me is that Authoritarians whether they are on the far right or far left always appeal to rural communities. Intellectual 'city folk' are the enemies of the people. Of course once they gain power they treat the rural people like sht anyway. They are simply a tool to gain power.

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Lori G's avatar Lori G @lorig.bsky.social
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Yes, it's all status anxiety and racial status is sadly a major piece of that.

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Ginnette Powell's avatar Ginnette Powell @caffeinehusky.bsky.social
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Always!.if you are doing what and white person doesn't think possible, they question you and demand answers......

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b-boy bouiebaisse's avatar b-boy bouiebaisse @jbouie.bsky.social
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the other thing to add here is that whatever the role race plays in structuring class identity or broader understandings of ones social position, this isn’t exclusive to rural whites or poor whites or even primarily about them

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Teucrian's avatar Teucrian @teucrian.bsky.social
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And if Americans are evaluating their economic position relative to disfavored others then it makes sense that low unemployment could actually worsen their perception of the economy.

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Rose, The Sword Vixen's avatar Rose, The Sword Vixen @threetails.bsky.social
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Throw in anti-welfare talking points too, which were always tinged with racism and soaked in Southern Strategy cynicism. Every time welfare comes up you know racism is involved somehow.

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Solving economic inequality does nothing to solve systemic bigotry. That is something Bernie Sanders and his followers have never understood.

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@wscotgrey's avatar @wscotgrey @wscotgrey.bsky.social
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Economic anxiety is as fake as states rights. The “anxiety” is from not getting their race war that was supposed to wipe out their debt from their $100,000 pick up truck.

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This article raised similar issues and had good discussion of dynamics about researchers straining to avoid discussing white rural rage, title of his book, from @paulwaldman.bsky.social
newrepublic.com/article/1805...

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tomstpatrick's avatar tomstpatrick @tomstpatrick.bsky.social
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Doctrine of Discovery.

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's avatar @nclud.bsky.social
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It’s all status anxiety. People wanting to keep the racial hierarchy how it is. Also, a lot of petite bugiose chamber of commerce types attended J6 trying to stay at the top of the pecking order in their little local fiefdoms

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Hagatha Crusty's avatar Hagatha Crusty @obviouslycloe.bsky.social
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I watched (in west virginia) firsthand as family and acquaintances who voted dem for generations flipped on a dime the second Obama was elected and I can say with certainty is wasnt his political positions they didn't like.

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Andrew Parker's avatar Andrew Parker @andrewparker.bsky.social
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I think it got as much traction as it did as the explanation for Trump because it fit into a lot of leftists’ fantasy of a vast population “distracted” by “identity politics” but who’d totally support us if we focused on economic issues. Rather than “oh shit a huge portion of the country is bigots”

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Drew Rosielle's avatar Drew Rosielle @drosielle.bsky.social
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Is it me or is the framing at the end of the press release kind of “we’re befuddled by what’s wrong with these rural Black & Hispanic voters” that they haven’t changed voting habits. Perhaps easier to say this than the obvious discussion of rural white voters going all out racial caste politics

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Jakob Wasserhoevel's avatar Jakob Wasserhoevel @jakob92.bsky.social
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I found the idea of "aggrieved entitlement" useful when it comes to this problem. the economic problems are real but the anger is led to the wrong conclusions. Right-wing grifters who want rural people to be angry will fight any economic solution because it might lessen the outrage they need to win.

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Kevin Gannon 's avatar Kevin Gannon @thetattooedprof.bsky.social
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This is what I wish all the class-über-alles lefties who keep yelling at me online would recognize: in this country, race and class are thorougly intertwined, and you just can't stir them apart

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onekade's avatar onekade @onekade.bsky.social
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No book better explains Trumpism than “Dying of Whiteness.” Metzl finds exactly what you’re saying: white people would prefer to suffer than see POC thrive alongside whites.

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Nolan Zugernat's avatar Nolan Zugernat @zugernat.bsky.social
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It wasn’t very many years ago when almost the only non-white people you’d see in TV commercials was a token friend. The right was primed to seize on white alarm when suddenly there were black or mixed race families on their TV buying Grand Cherokees.

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freelance agent for BIG-DOG (dog industry)'s avatar freelance agent for BIG-DOG (dog industry) @beneprism.rip
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It seems clear to me that rural whites have a stronger affinity to a white identity, it's just that most people refer to it as an "American" identity. They see the GOP as "pro-American". This is how you get "proud Americans" flying the traitor flag.

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Beadle, Society for the New Art's avatar Beadle, Society for the New Art @saraht74.bsky.social
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There has been a great deal of work done to persuade people that the government can't actually improve the economy or the infrastructure or the environment, so the only thing government *can* do for them is continue to enforce the psychological benefits of white superiority.

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Chris Wilhelm's avatar Chris Wilhelm @cwilhelm24.bsky.social
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Its another example where the establishment press simply will not say what's happening, because that would upset the wrong people.

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Andrew Davis's avatar Andrew Davis @thrownintosol.bsky.social
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Spot on - This is South Africa as well, in a nutshell, oof.

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dr. nova's avatar dr. nova @sugarblaster.bsky.social
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been on my megaphone screaming “they hate black people!!!” since 2016 and no want wants to hear it

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