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Things are pretty fucked up and the future is uncertain — probably the worst in my lifetime (perhaps excepting 1969 before I can remember). When it’s like that, I like to think about my grandparents and what they faced and got through with the Great Depression and WWII. /1

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Cwnidog 🍉🇵🇸's avatar Cwnidog 🍉🇵🇸 @cwnidog.bsky.social
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I remember 1968 & 1969 quite well - trust me, it’s worse than those.

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Porter's avatar Porter @porter79.bsky.social
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Kindler's avatar Kindler @kindler.bsky.social
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Yes, this is one reason why I love to read history. People have gotten through much worse. Can you imagine being alive duing WWII when the Axis powers were winning, Germany in control of most of Europe, Japan having conquered much of Asia? If folks back then could keep hope alive, we can too.

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Redshoe's avatar Redshoe @redshoe.bsky.social
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My aunt just gifted me a huge binder full of the love letters my grandfather wrote to grandmother during World War II. I have such conflicting emotions reading those this week

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Funksands's avatar Funksands @funksands.bsky.social
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Ken, is there value in forcing a Constitutional crisis of some kind? While the stakes are smaller? If SCOTUS is unconstrained, and they also feel that POTUS is so, should we be testing that theory somehow? Not sure if what I am asking makes sense

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Gekko's avatar Gekko @gekko.bsky.social
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Ah well … and you haven’t even got to catastrophic irreversible climate change yet then, have you.

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Stew Shearer's avatar Stew Shearer @stewshearer.bsky.social
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My Gran grew up in England during the Blitz and enlisted into the army as a nurse at age 16. She witnessed terrible things on a scale that I can't even imagine. Before she passed away last year, she told me that the news was hard to watch because "it looks like the dark times are coming back."

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Gordos52's avatar Gordos52 @gordos52.bsky.social
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I think about that with my parents too. They were very young during WWI and the 1918 pandemic, married in '35 and started having babies. I can't imagine their anxiety. Dad entered the Navy in '44 and was sent to the S. Pacific -- my mom never knew where he actually was. 1/

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Popehat's avatar Popehat @kenwhite.bsky.social
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/2 There were absolutely no guarantees that everything would be all right. Terrible things were happening and more terrible things were a distinct possibility. But they got through it, relying on the fundamental things they cared about.

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Nix Onyx's avatar Nix Onyx @nixonyx.bsky.social
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A few years ago, we found a diary my grandfather had kept during WWII (he was in England, Home Guard). Reading his responses to things happening really drove home how uncertain things were. When you watch a WWII movie, you already know the ending, but they just had to give it their all and hope.

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Kim Marshall's avatar Kim Marshall @dangerblond.bsky.social
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My grandparents lived through the depression and were very poor. They survived, they didn’t whine, and they inspire me. However, I now see that they were very traumatized people and the PTSD they suffered from such deprivation in their young lives never left them.

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My parents were born in 1933 and 1935. I feel as though we have badly let them down.

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Paddyboy's avatar Paddyboy @hodag1977.bsky.social
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I always think of the citizens of London during WWII getting bombed nightly by the Germans during the Blitz - they didn’t panic, they emerged from the shelters every morning, cleaned up & carried on. Drove Hitler crazy.

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Agent Kooper's avatar Agent Kooper @agentkooper.bsky.social
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I don't know for certain because I wasn't there at the time but there is sense that the big difference between then and now is the large majority of people in the US were on the right side. It is not like that today and that is what scares me.

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The Cuyahoga River fire?

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Innocent🕷Abroad's avatar Innocent🕷Abroad @jjgass.bsky.social
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My mom's parents were German Jews who left their country in 1938 and 1939. The story on Dad's side isn't as harrowing, but it's still dramatic. I'll survive. But I am worried about a lot of other people who are much more vulnerable than I. Oh, for a boring election between two beige centrists!

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Peggy March's avatar Peggy March @rebelgeo.bsky.social
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Franklin Piss🇺🇦's avatar Franklin Piss🇺🇦 @silkscreenfiend.bsky.social
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I think about my dad and all the other Jews around the world, after Kristallnacht, watching as Hitler successfully invaded country after country, not knowing if he'd take over the whole world.

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Katharine's avatar Katharine @halekoa.bsky.social
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Im in my 70s, and I find the current situation more frightening than the late 60s. We never had this many voters and people in Congress giving support to a person like Trump.

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TerryT's avatar TerryT @terryt.bsky.social
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1969 wasn't that bad, I was 17 then and the big worry was the draft. I think 1982 and Reagan was a lot worst, that was economic and social chaos.

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Ann Bransom's avatar Ann Bransom @annbransom.bsky.social
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It’s times like this I’m most grateful to have a diverse support system and fierce friends with lived experiences vastly different from mine. They keep me from despairing in the vacuum of my admittedly narrow lived experience of societal adversity.

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This is exactly the thought exercise I do. Both parents were teens as they watched the countries of Europe fall or go dark, both sent hither and yon with the military while my grandparents did what needed to be done, with no promise of success. The only way out is through. Keep Calm and Carry On.

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Action Committee for Transit's avatar Action Committee for Transit @actfortransit.bsky.social
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A person of our acquaintance, who lived through WWII as a child in the European war zone, just said unprompted that things are worse now. But that might be because the person was a child then.

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Andrew Rothstein's avatar Andrew Rothstein @asrothstein.bsky.social
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My grandpa lived to 100 and spent ~78 of those in the states. He couldn’t fathom the appeal of Trump and how the ideology of ignorance and cruelty was something people seemed to actively strive for.

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strive for pithiness. land on glib.'s avatar strive for pithiness. land on glib. @scruffymane.bsky.social
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or living in present day Kharkiv, or Kabul. Hell imagine being a Tory in England.

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